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JamPal's Avatar Comment 1 by JamPal

Poor kid, what chance did he have? Imagine growing up in a land where the only evidence worth takling notice of, is that which supports the delusion. No matter how silly.

I would hate to live in a land like that..

I do?


Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)

Fri, 25 May 2007 06:29:00 UTC | #41890

Mango's Avatar Comment 2 by Mango

You know, even were he to grow stalactites in that manner, all he would have done was to increase our knowledge of stalacites, not prove Judeo-Christian "creation."

Fri, 25 May 2007 06:32:00 UTC | #41893

Oromasdes1978's Avatar Comment 3 by Oromasdes1978

If he had done it properly he could have prayed with the right amount of "faith" and got his god to create it for him!

Fri, 25 May 2007 06:36:00 UTC | #41897

RascoHeldall's Avatar Comment 4 by RascoHeldall

Child abuse.

Plain and simple.

Fri, 25 May 2007 06:42:00 UTC | #41904

bmkern's Avatar Comment 5 by bmkern

I formed salt crystals, therefor God. Seems like pretty airtight logic to me...

Seriously, how far would just teaching logic to children go towards abolishing religion? I'd like to think a long way.

Fri, 25 May 2007 06:49:00 UTC | #41909

_J_'s Avatar Comment 6 by _J_

Poor kid.

There are teachers who are afraid to touch a child who falls down in the playground for fear of being sued for inappropriate behaviour or somehow held responsible for the injury. And that's here in England - popular 'wisdom' would have me believe that the US is still more zanily litigious.

If innocent concern for a child's welfare can be turned into a lawyer's lunch, surely wilfully misleading a child into completely misunderstanding the things you're supposed to be teaching him is an out-and-out criminal offence? Fines or prison sentences ought to follow.

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:07:00 UTC | #41913

konquererz's Avatar Comment 7 by konquererz

Wow, and not a single adult stepped in to inform him of extremely provable answer to his project. There was no science teacher there, not even if one had the title. If there was a science teacher that had really been taught science, then he or she should be banned from being around school children as they out and out lied to that child about the truth of his experiment. I agree, child abuse, plain and simple!

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:11:00 UTC | #41917

Tyler Durden's Avatar Comment 8 by Tyler Durden

*Slaps palm of hand on forehead*

This is just plain sad. Imagine a "science" fair confusing biology with geology. Idiots.

How can this teacher be allowed to keep her job?

And what are the chances one of the "judges" was a priest/preacher/man of god?

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:22:00 UTC | #41921

CJ22's Avatar Comment 9 by CJ22

Even if he had managed to come up with some proof that stalagtites grew faster than the scientific consensus, how does that 'disprove some parts of evolution'? What have stalagtites got to do with evolution?

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:30:00 UTC | #41929

TIKI AL's Avatar Comment 10 by TIKI AL

My perpetual fiancee has grown more impressive stalactites than that in our icebox.

The kid that brought the fossilized dinosaur spurs should have won.

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:34:00 UTC | #41934

ClemIsMe's Avatar Comment 11 by ClemIsMe

This is a job for the ATF. These children need to be rescued.

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:38:00 UTC | #41938

adocarbog's Avatar Comment 13 by adocarbog

My kudos to the kid, though, at least he is trying to be scientific, trying to experiment. Give him some time and a chance to gain more knowledge and he may actually get it and realize that the earth is 4.7 bil years old etc.
The only way to beat this creationism crap is by education, education, education, education, education .... and not intellectual debates.

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:42:00 UTC | #41941

DarwinsPitbull's Avatar Comment 12 by DarwinsPitbull

So let me get it straight, god created man on the 6th day and then created rolled up paper towels?

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:42:00 UTC | #41940

Nebularry's Avatar Comment 14 by Nebularry

If that kid was the "winner", how apallingly ludicrous must the losers have been!!!!!

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:47:00 UTC | #41943

Capt.Jon's Avatar Comment 15 by Capt.Jon

Hey, I just disproved evolution by making some rocks and animals out of clay. I CREATED them and thus proved creation.

Where's my ribbon?

Fri, 25 May 2007 07:49:00 UTC | #41946

MorituriMax's Avatar Comment 16 by MorituriMax

Brian better walk real quiet.. once his God finds out he's got competition, it'll be all old testament on his ass.


Fri, 25 May 2007 08:10:00 UTC | #41967

anotherclinton's Avatar Comment 17 by anotherclinton

Ah, Pawley's Island. Right off the coast of my own benighted home state (single tear). Further proof, of course, that Christians love crystals.

Fri, 25 May 2007 08:12:00 UTC | #41969

lt_zippy2's Avatar Comment 18 by lt_zippy2

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why can't we do something about this travesty?

It's not just a travesty of science, it's a travesty of simple intelligence, it's a travesty of common sense, it is an abuse of position...and on behalf of the teachers who gave this award it is lies. LIES.

Don't you wish christians had a commandment from their precious scriptures about that...

(please note only one exclaimation mark)

Fri, 25 May 2007 08:29:00 UTC | #41980

Lara Avara's Avatar Comment 19 by Lara Avara

An egregious example of the failure to educate children. Do you suppose this institution of "learning" is aware that Pica also refers to the behavior of eating inedibles?

Fri, 25 May 2007 08:50:00 UTC | #41992

don malvado's Avatar Comment 20 by don malvado

I see someone claiming to be james randi has left a comment on the georgetown times page.

Fri, 25 May 2007 08:55:00 UTC | #41995

Phaeonix's Avatar Comment 21 by Phaeonix

Another comment left on that article:

" Mylzz Gossett May, 25 2007 appears so that those two people are evolutionist.
just to let you two know, evolution has been disproven
SO many times, I can swallow my own head.
did you know that the more and more Einstein studied
about space, the more he thought there was to be a god.
I mean, look how complicated space is.
Do you think that all of that happened by chance?
No. It didn't. Its like I put a nice watch in a bag, then
shook it for a couple of months and chances
are,I'm not going to get a perfect watch with all
of it's gizmos as if someone had made it.
No, it took a Creator to make that watch.
so, sorry evolution, but that's 2 to nothing in my opinion. "

If there were such a thing as a soul in me, I assure all of you, it just died.

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:24:00 UTC | #42001

Aaron SF's Avatar Comment 22 by Aaron SF

But everyone don't you see? This is Biology... because it *proves* the age of the earth to be less than six thousand years! (what?) And that means it diproves evolution! (what?) and that means it proves the creation my... errr theorey!

So seee... it's related to biology by only five or six hundred leaps of logic (or one leap of faith) and therefore even though he was using the wrong materials in the wrong environment he still earned that first place ribbon (bible?) at the christian science fare.

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:34:00 UTC | #42005

Chrysippus_Maximus's Avatar Comment 23 by Chrysippus_Maximus


Phaeonix... you've just made me so angry... not you... but... man... WHAT THE FUCK!!!! ARRRRRRGH!!

I'm torn between force-educating these idiots and hording knowledge for only those that deserve it.

Anyone with an IQ under 130 should not be allowed to MENTION the name Einstein, because YOU DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND HIM. PERIOD.


Fri, 25 May 2007 09:35:00 UTC | #42006

mintcheerios's Avatar Comment 24 by mintcheerios

How can people still claim that religion doesn't conflict with science after this?

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:36:00 UTC | #42008

pewkatchoo's Avatar Comment 25 by pewkatchoo

You really have a serious problem in the US with all of this. There seems to be no end to the websites devoted to creationism and ID. Here in the UK we have problems with education in general at state schools and with violence among young people, which has the effect of turning kids off school. But we don't have anything like this I think, except maybe in the odd mumbo jumbo school. The US and the UK are going to have a huge unemployable underclass in 10-20 years, for different reasons. Scary stuff.

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:42:00 UTC | #42011

Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 26 by Cook@Tahiti

3. Comment #44699 by Philip1978 on May 25, 2007 at 7:36 am

>If he had done it properly he could have prayed with the right amount of "faith" and got his god to create it for him!

But then it would no longer be "faith". There's a Catch-22 Parodox here. If God answers prayer, you have evidence and don't need "faith". :)

Fri, 25 May 2007 09:59:00 UTC | #42020

Tyler Durden's Avatar Comment 27 by Tyler Durden

I actually rang these bozos, got through to the alleged principal, Rick.

He said he's been inundated with criticism over the award given to student Brian Benson. Reckons this "experiment" should not have been in the Life Sciences/Biology category.

I did ask him to print a retraction in the Georgetown Times (strange, he's not a big fan of that particular paper), he is considering it but I won't hold my breath.

He actually seemed surprised to be getting a phone call on this subject, needless to say, I didn't let him off the hook that easy! Is this how they teach children science? How is this preparing them for the real world? Did the school approve the quotes from Benson?

The other awards, he said, generated very little criticism. Yeah, funny that. Science with an agenda will tend to provoke a backlash.

Fri, 25 May 2007 10:56:00 UTC | #42042

TIKI AL's Avatar Comment 28 by TIKI AL

14. Comment #44745 by Nebularry on May 25, 2007 at 8:47 am

If that kid was the "winner", how apallingly ludicrous must the losers have been!!!!!

...Remember, the fundies world works in reverse. The "loser" may have aced string theory.

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:05:00 UTC | #42046

GodlessHeathen's Avatar Comment 29 by GodlessHeathen

The other projects having received awards all appear to be good learning projects for science. The examples given were really good ones for learning the scientific method - the "Why is the sky blue?" project in particular.

The creationism pseudo-science project is so glaringly different from the rest in focus and technique. The award was nothing more than a bunch of xtian jerks stroking one another. Bleh!

And was that really James Randi who posted that comment on the news story? Would be interesting that it garnered that sort of attention.

Fri, 25 May 2007 11:39:00 UTC | #42067

devolved's Avatar Comment 30 by devolved

In October 1953, National Geographic published a photo of a bat that had fallen on a stalagmite in the famous Carlsbad Caverns, New Mexico, and had been cemented on to it. The stalagmite had grown so fast it was able to preserve the bat before the creature had time to decompose. [Mason Sutherland, Carlsbad Caverns in Color, National Geographic, October, 1953, p. 442.]

A photograph taken in February, 1968, shows a curtain of stalactites growing from the foundation ceiling beneath the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC. Some of the stalactites had grown to five feet long (a metre and a half) in the 45 years since the memorial was built in 1923. [John C. Whitcomb, Jr, The World That Perished, Baker Book House, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1973, pp. 114–115.]

Fri, 25 May 2007 13:00:00 UTC | #42084