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jimmm33's Avatar Comment 1 by jimmm33

Did this article just advocate drowning to those who teach their children something other than xtainanity?

Makes you really wonder what can come up when you ask, "What would jesus do?"

I welcome the fight they are trying to rally. The new "atheist movement" benefits from these outbursts from the religionists.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:02:00 UTC | #75707

JamesDB's Avatar Comment 2 by JamesDB

This is a little bit terrifying and absurd at the same time. It does however help to show the kind of impact we are having on these christian groups. I guess they are finally getting scared enough to change their tactics against us, which I feel is a good sign. Its good to know we are moving forward in this direction, pushing these groups against the wall so they make desparate moves like this one. Lets all hope the trend continues.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:07:00 UTC | #75709

CJ22's Avatar Comment 3 by CJ22

We should all apply for our free copy of Dr. Kennedy's classic book Skeptics Answered immediately. Drain their resources :) I wonder if they'll do international postage?

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:23:00 UTC | #75713

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 4 by Bonzai

Just this summer, while our children and grandchildren were away at Bible camp, hundreds of other children were attending a new, nationwide network of camps designed as training grounds for young atheists. These camps feature talks on famous "free thinkers" such as Isaac Asimov and Ted Turner . . .

Ted Turner??

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:25:00 UTC | #75714

wendelin's Avatar Comment 5 by wendelin

Do Fundies and bad grammar go hand in hand in America? I wonder what he means by putting "young and old" in quotation marks. Very existential.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:29:00 UTC | #75716

ThePuckishOne's Avatar Comment 7 by ThePuckishOne

CJ22: Somehow I doubt it's a 'free' copy. Notice the traditional "shill for Jesus" in the last sentence: Thank you in advance for your gift to help spread the Truth to the world and counter the attacks of the "New Atheists."

Yes, help defeat such horrid freethinkers as the late Issac Asimov...what, they're terrified of the dead now? Maybe they just want their money back after seeing "I, Robot."

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:30:00 UTC | #75718

USA_Limey's Avatar Comment 6 by USA_Limey

Thank you in advance for your gift

What a racket! Scare the shit out of the believers and then fleece them for a donation.

How does anyone buy into this crap!

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:30:00 UTC | #75717

USA_Limey's Avatar Comment 8 by USA_Limey

Maybe they just want their money back after seeing "I, Robot."

Hey I liked that movie! My favourite story from the Asimov robot series; "little lost robot". Close second would be, "Escape!"


Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:33:00 UTC | #75720

Ford Prefect's Avatar Comment 9 by Ford Prefect

Just checked the website. The book isn't free. They are suggesting a gift of between $20 and $100. God can't do anything without believers money.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:40:00 UTC | #75722

robert s's Avatar Comment 11 by robert s

I could understand them being upset about Heinlein, but Asimov?

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:42:00 UTC | #75725

Logicel's Avatar Comment 10 by Logicel

"The new evangelists are atheists."

But you evangelists have set such clever examples in rounding up your sheepish flock, you only have yourself to blame!


Seriously, the religites would be even more riled and apprehensive if they had the goodness-given ability to be discriminating intellectually. Because then they would really realize what the competition represents in daunting challenge. Atheists are not secular evangelists, we offer critical thinking skills, the ability to decide for yourself, etc. They can't compete. And yes, atheists were always around, but THAT WAS BEFORE THE NET. The playing field has changed, guys. You no longer can shield your kids from critical thinking like you once could.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:42:00 UTC | #75724

Fire1974's Avatar Comment 12 by Fire1974

If you don't mind being outraged, or need a new monitor anyway, you can follow this link to their website and watch their slanderous video.

The misrepresentations, straw men, and just plain mind-numbing ignorance are almost too much to bear.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:45:00 UTC | #75726

Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 14 by Cook@Tahiti

It's possible to select $0 for the book, but you still have to enter your credit card details.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:46:00 UTC | #75729

quill's Avatar Comment 13 by quill

Coral Ridge Ministries was the group responsible for shouting down that Hindu priest who tried to open a Senate session recently, with frantic screams of "Thou shalt have no other gods before me!" Until they were kicked out of the chamber. The more assertive people like this become in THEIR viewpoints, the worse Christianity looks because of it, so I consider their efforts a positive force for atheism.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:46:00 UTC | #75727

briancoughlanworldcitizen's Avatar Comment 15 by briancoughlanworldcitizen

Brilliant:-) Can you say "running scared"?

I must pick up with some of my old Christian friends and see how things are going .... scare the bejesus out of them with my apostasy.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:47:00 UTC | #75730

Logicel's Avatar Comment 16 by Logicel

Coral Ridge Ministries is dedicated to combating atheist attacks on Christianity through our media ministry.

No one is attacking the right for Christians to be Christians. So, essentially you will be confronting criticism, just little old criticism, so you better hone up your intellectual skills, you lovable evangelists! (Hmmm, these protectors of the evangelist way are on rocky ground here, they, by embracing intellectual thought in the courageous process of trying to protect their offspring from the atheist onslaught, may become atheists themselves--I can't bear the irony, damned if they do, damned if they don't!)

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:50:00 UTC | #75731

briancoughlanworldcitizen's Avatar Comment 17 by briancoughlanworldcitizen

bugger, almost got an order in for $1, but it balked at my phone number. Anyone managed to order it internationally?

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:55:00 UTC | #75732

Nick Good's Avatar Comment 18 by Nick Good

Jesus said, "But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea" (Mark 9:42 NKJV).

So much for gentle Jesus meek and mild! The fellow punts this hateful bilge, like these are words of wisdom.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:56:00 UTC | #75733

Elli's Avatar Comment 19 by Elli

Famed market researcher George Barna ominously warns Christians: "The new evangelists are atheists."

Doesn't the word evangelize literally mean to convert someone to christianity? to describe atheists as seeking to evangelize is just plain idiotic.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:59:00 UTC | #75734

robert s's Avatar Comment 20 by robert s

Well, the literal meaning is 'spread good news', which doesn't seem so bad to me.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:07:00 UTC | #75736

USA_Limey's Avatar Comment 21 by USA_Limey

Comment #79431 by Fire1974:

If you don't mind being outraged, or need a new monitor anyway, you can follow this link to their website and watch their slanderous video.

Thank you soooo much for this link. But I was not outraged Fire1974 and I don't think you should be either. Actually I had immense fun watching it!


Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:08:00 UTC | #75737

brian thomson's Avatar Comment 22 by brian thomson

Did this article just advocate drowning to those who teach their children something other than xtainanity?

[sarcasm]Well, he's just quoting the inerrant Bible, so no court in the USA would accept a charge of incitement to murder. It's not the fault of this "person with faith" that he was taught to believe the Bible and do its bidding, regardless of what it actually says.[/sarcasm]

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:19:00 UTC | #75740

Fire1974's Avatar Comment 23 by Fire1974


I agree. It is fantastic to have these books mentioned. Especially in those circles. However, it is irritating to hear them blatantly misrepresent the arguments and recommend "starting early" with indoctrinating children and so on; but of course, what should I expect?

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:20:00 UTC | #75741

briancoughlanworldcitizen's Avatar Comment 24 by briancoughlanworldcitizen

Did that "Professor of Literature" call Dawkins book poignant???

Otherwise they make some really excellent points. Atheism is no longer the province of the rarified academic, and isn't that brilliant?

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:21:00 UTC | #75743

Janus's Avatar Comment 26 by Janus


Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:36:00 UTC | #75747

35bluejacket's Avatar Comment 25 by 35bluejacket

From the apark of disagreement comes truth.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:36:00 UTC | #75746

USA_Limey's Avatar Comment 27 by USA_Limey

Comment #79449 by Beth:

I figure the more money I make them waste by having them send their books and tapes to me for free, the better.

On the one hand, I agree; drain the bastards dry if you can. BUT, on the other hand, where is that money coming from? Mostly poor vulnerable people they have fleeced of a donation, people who can ill afford it. Living in the states I sometimes watch the Sunday morning televangelist shows just to see them operate; they are a marvel to behold, a true 'how to' handbook of the confidence trick. The people who call in and pledge money are in most cases the elderley, the sick, the lonely; people for whom that $20 bucks might be the difference between making the next gas bill or rent check.

The whole thing depresses the hell out of me.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:37:00 UTC | #75748

cowalker's Avatar Comment 29 by cowalker

Ford Prefect: "The book isn't free. They are suggesting a gift of between $20 and $100. God can't do anything without believers money."

These religious hustlers are just like the frauds that sell quack health remedies.

"Three simple foods cure cancer and heart disease. Order our book for $39.95 to get this list of miracle foods."

"Arguments and answers that will save souls. Send us $20 to find out what they are."

How much of a money grubber would you have to be to withhold such knowledge, if you had it?

How could a Christian justify forcing people to pay for information that would prevent souls from going to hell? Oh, that's right. Jesus charged the big bucks for personal appearances. No shekels, no message of redemption. And no recording devices allowed.

Of course these big American ministries are all about the money. Period.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:42:00 UTC | #75751

35bluejacket's Avatar Comment 28 by 35bluejacket

Sorry I didn't proof read.
"From the spark of disagreement comes truth."
Maybe someone can help with the author.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:42:00 UTC | #75750

Duff's Avatar Comment 30 by Duff

Please! No one in this world should be surprised that making money is central to all religions. This is the God Business, after all. If one suggests to these pontifical bloviators that their beloved Jesus recommended they leave their worldly goods behind and follow him, they will hem and haw and shrewdly tell you it takes a lot of money to support the "mission of the ______",(fill in the blank) which supports the flock. You are never allowed to find out how much they skim off the top.

Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:02:00 UTC | #75753