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logical's Avatar Comment 1 by logical

That was the logic of the witchburners.
History repeating itself - or can we stop them this time?

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:14:00 UTC | #99686

Quine's Avatar Comment 2 by Quine

The man has gone over the edge.

[Edit: Looks like they keep adding a couple of inches to the hat each year; maybe the weight has compressed his brain.]

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:21:00 UTC | #99688

Fanusi Khiyal's Avatar Comment 3 by Fanusi Khiyal

*laughs* I like it! We need more headlines like this!

...Oh come on, it's at least amusing.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:23:00 UTC | #99689

nogodsever's Avatar Comment 4 by nogodsever

Look at Ratzinger. Look at that picture of him above. He wears that ridiculous, ludicrous hat in all seriousness. He, my friends, is one of the world's biggest douchebags.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:35:00 UTC | #99691

AllanW's Avatar Comment 5 by AllanW

Oh man, I love this. It's an entirely logical response to the effects of the modern enlightenment IF you have a medieval mindset.

It's the corollary of the Asimov observation; 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic'. In this case; 'Any sufficiently complex society is indistinguishable from demonic possession.'

Anyone else need any more evidence for how backward this Pope is? How dissonant must his mental state be?

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:37:00 UTC | #99692

Logicel's Avatar Comment 6 by Logicel

The only difference I can see between a deluded paranoid who believes she/he is being followed by a non-existent entity and the Pope is that the latter wears funny clothes and a ridiculous hat.

Humans have enough of real problems on their hands, and this leader of a prominent and powerful organization wants us to waste our time fretting about his fantasies of devils and loss of faith in superstitions? Get a real job, Ratty.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:43:00 UTC | #99693

NJS's Avatar Comment 8 by NJS

When will a psychiatrist have the courage to stand up and do an "emperor's new clothes" on these mentally ill people?

Having said that the more "idiotic" stories the better in my view.

Also the response should be a simple question: "How many people have died at the hands of Satanists?"

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:00 UTC | #99695

phil rimmer's Avatar Comment 7 by phil rimmer

It's the corollary of the Asimov observation; 'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic'.


Thought it was Arthur C. Clarke? [edit] it was

Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law)

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:00 UTC | #99694

the way's Avatar Comment 9 by the way

Knee jerk reaction to the sudden revival (popularity) of atheism. They are "grasping at strawmen".

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:51:00 UTC | #99696

AdrianB's Avatar Comment 10 by AdrianB

He does have an uncanny resemblance to The Emperor in the Star Wars films in that photograph.

If he looks evil, and he speaks evil ....

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:53:00 UTC | #99697

alexmzk's Avatar Comment 11 by alexmzk

actually, a quick google for "pope + exorcisms" turned up this unnerving article: http://www.catholicherald.com/cns/exorcism.htm
i take it there's going to be yet more abuse of mentally ill people by the Vatican from now on?

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:59:00 UTC | #99699

AllanW's Avatar Comment 12 by AllanW

phil rimmer; you're right, of course :)

It was Clarke not Asimov.

Nevertheless I've not seen a more clear case of blinkered dogma being dissonant from reality for a very long time. I'm happy that this is the case (that it's so clear). This Pope will do more for the cause of atheism or unbelief than any one individual on our side.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:00:00 UTC | #99700

phil rimmer's Avatar Comment 13 by phil rimmer

It is actually this very thinking that leads to the wickedness the Pope fears.

If the Pope were to say satanism is complete nonsense, much so-called satanic behaviour would cease.

It is also analogous to our current political leaders using the threat of terrorism to scare us into being a more obedient flock.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:01:00 UTC | #99701

AshtonBlack's Avatar Comment 14 by AshtonBlack

He does have an uncanny resemblance to The Emperor in the Star Wars films in that photograph.

If he looks evil, and he speaks evil ....



fear is the path to the dark side. fear leads to anger. anger leads to hate. hate leads to suffering. ~ yoda.

Edit: I think I'm going nuts (or possibly possesed) 'cos I don't remember editing the above comment. The original was: "Hum the Imperial March" when looking at the photo..... Well it made me chuckle!

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:02:00 UTC | #99702

phil rimmer's Avatar Comment 15 by phil rimmer

Nevertheless I've not seen a more clear case of blinkered dogma being dissonant from reality for a very long time.


Actually, I share your glee. Its bonkers. Its bloody marvelous.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:04:00 UTC | #99703

BAEOZ's Avatar Comment 16 by BAEOZ

So this is what RD didn't address when he avoided sophisticated theological arguments then?
When RD ignored the existence of Satan and the need to perform exorcisms on people falsely labeled insane, he showed his ignorance. Thank Zeus we have such a pope.....

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:16:00 UTC | #99705

Geoff's Avatar Comment 17 by Geoff

Anyone else got Mike Oldfield's music running through their heads now...?

I still find it difficult to decide at first sight whether these type of article are from the Onion, without checking the source; they really are beyond parodying.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:28:00 UTC | #99707

eno's Avatar Comment 18 by eno

What schmucks. Instead of fighting the real threat of fundamentalist Christianity and Islam they've decided to fight Satanism?

This isn't even news.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:35:00 UTC | #99708

Quetzalcoatl's Avatar Comment 19 by Quetzalcoatl

I'm sure that I speak for everyone when I say that I'm relieved that the Catholic Church is taking such care to be at the forefront in tackling issues affecting the world today. Praise the Lord!

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:36:00 UTC | #99709

BicycleRepairMan's Avatar Comment 20 by BicycleRepairMan

Seriously, what the F..?

This is daylight robbery of reason.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:39:00 UTC | #99711

Vaal's Avatar Comment 21 by Vaal

They don't learn do they? So Darth Ratzinger considers himself an intellectual, yet believes in the occult? Now they are going to persecute the mentally ill in the name of religion? Didn't they learn anything after the nun who was killed during an exorcism?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4107524.stm

I am not sure whether this is good news, as it makes them look absolutely ludicrous, and makes our job a lot easier, or to despair at the return of medieval religious stupidity.

Reminds me of the Salem Witch hunts. Perhaps he should read Arthur Millers "The Crucible". What a cretin!

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:45:00 UTC | #99712

Paula Kirby's Avatar Comment 23 by Paula Kirby

To judge from that photo, they won't have to look far to find their first candidate for exorcism ...

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:46:00 UTC | #99714

Incredulous's Avatar Comment 22 by Incredulous

Father Paolo Scarafoni, who lectures on the Vatican's exorcism course, said interest in Satanism and the occult has grown as people lost faith with the church.


I hope this guy has evidence for this rather strange belief. I guess this kind of non sequitir is prevalent amongst those who assume that if it is not god then it must be his dissenting creation Lucifer.

I'm not even sure I understand what he means by interest in satanism. Does trying to get a balanced view of a subject, in order to be intellectually honest, mean ignoring ideas which do not assume your probably wrong assumption.

When will a psychiatrist have the courage to stand up and do an "emperor's new clothes" on these mentally ill people?

It would be very interesting for me to hear someone from the medical profession give some kind of analysis on people who perpetuate this nonsense.

Is this pope for real?

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:46:00 UTC | #99713

aw6334's Avatar Comment 24 by aw6334

Bonkers. This man is totally bonkers.

The only explanation I can think of is that he has been watching too many horror films over the Christmas period.

But never mind. The more mad pronouncements he makes, the better for us!

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:58:00 UTC | #99715

Duff's Avatar Comment 25 by Duff

This is going to be the best pope ever!! Demented Medieval Pope, directly out of central casting. The last one was a nice guy, but this crank wanker is just perfect! I hope he lives for many many years. Think of the damage The Rat can do.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:08:00 UTC | #99716

Diacanu's Avatar Comment 26 by Diacanu

Man, they really are pathetically desperate.

They're pretty much admitting that the fictional rescue of the fictional girl from "The Excorcist", was the only heroicly awsome thing catholicism was ever involved in, and now they're pathetically trying to grasp onto that PR in the collective subconscious.

Sick shit.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:11:00 UTC | #99717

scottishgeologist's Avatar Comment 27 by scottishgeologist

Its not just the RCs either. A lot of evangies (esp the charismaniac types) are right into thius "demon posession" BS as well. They HAVE to be. Its in their holy book whcih CANNOT be wrong.

I know of a couple of evangie fundies who, when they fell on hard times and had various illnesses and stuff, reckoned that "they were under attack" from evil forces. I kid you not.

And I rememeber reading not so long ago about how a preacher was bemoaning the fact that we dont pay enough attention to the "middle order" - angels, demons and all that stuff. (Middle presumably between heavenly state and earthly state)

This sort of woo-woo nonsense is only useful for one thing: providing lyrics for heavy metal music a la Dio, Blackmore, Iron Maiden et al!

(Mind you - these guys are probably demon-posessed according to the religites...)

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:11:00 UTC | #99718

scottishgeologist's Avatar Comment 28 by scottishgeologist

Ah, f*ck it.

Heres a good pic:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2005/220105dio.jpg

Go on Ratty, deal with that!

(Good album as well....)

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:16:00 UTC | #99720

automath's Avatar Comment 29 by automath

lol, combating the most extreme form of 'godlessness'. It doesn't take much imagination to see what that Jesus fellow had against organised religion with their man-made 'laws'.


You know that this is really a move to combat the Penacostals with their magic men, hence the really reason the Roman Catholics are advertising magic men of their own. I wonder when the people will wake up to this insanity.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:17:00 UTC | #99721

PaulJ's Avatar Comment 30 by PaulJ

In theory, under the Catholic Church's Canon Law 1172, all priests can perform exorcisms. But in reality only a select few are assigned the task.

Under the law, practitioners must have "piety, knowledge, prudence, and integrity of life."
Plus, of course, "bell, book and candle."

Is anyone taking this man seriously? Unfortunately I suspect the answer is yes.

I'd be interested in what the (atheist in all but title) Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury, thinks about the pope's latest initiative.

Sat, 29 Dec 2007 03:20:00 UTC | #99722