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Russell's Teapot's Avatar Comment 1 by Russell's Teapot

Anti-teapot bigotry! These curs need to be stopped!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:23:00 UTC | #131375

Steve Zara's Avatar Comment 2 by Steve Zara

A religious commune in Malaysia's Muslim heartland that worshipped a bizarre collection of structures including a giant teapot


Steve yells: Quetz! Philip1978!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:24:00 UTC | #131376

ThoughtsonCommonToad's Avatar Comment 3 by ThoughtsonCommonToad

Dawkins talked about this in the God Delusion.

EDIT: In my version, Footnote on page 52, Chapter: The God Hypothesis, sub-heading The Poverty of Agnosticism.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:29:00 UTC | #131379

Goldy's Avatar Comment 4 by Goldy

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7265404.stm
Some background reading regarding the role of religion in Malaysia, especially Islam.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:31:00 UTC | #131380

Gustaf Sjoblom's Avatar Comment 5 by Gustaf Sjoblom

So the teapot mentioned in TGD is no more. It makes me sad, the whole enterprise felt a bit like spaghetti to me, but perhaps it was more cultish.

Anyway. I think the most interesting part here is that it shows very clearly that islam is islam, regardless if you call it liberal or not. Isn't that always going to be the case with a religion that per definition is fundamentalist?

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:33:00 UTC | #131381

Strappado's Avatar Comment 7 by Strappado

I guess the next thing they want to destroy is Russell's Teapot. Good luck.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:58:00 UTC | #131403

Devolution's Avatar Comment 6 by Devolution

Signs to holdup and upcoming Teapot rally:

Death to those who insult the great celestial teapot!

May the streets flow with the blood of those who dont enjoy a delicious cup of tea with their morning paper!

This insult to Teapotism will not go unpunished!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:58:00 UTC | #131402

robotaholic's Avatar Comment 8 by robotaholic

Besides the wackyness of a giant teapot - is there any reason for which muslims wont turn into a mob?

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:02:00 UTC | #131404

al-rawandi's Avatar Comment 9 by al-rawandi

A woman was sentenced to two years in prison for being involved with this.

She was sentenced under an apostasy law.

In the 'Umdat al-salik (Reliance of the Traveler, a manual of Islamic Law) the worshipping of any thing other than god constitutes apostasy and is punishable by death.

The woman's sanity was questioned at the trial. No doubt you have to be insane to worship a teapot. Or a god.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:06:00 UTC | #131407

Elli's Avatar Comment 10 by Elli

Shakes head...

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:12:00 UTC | #131412

Quetzalcoatl's Avatar Comment 11 by Quetzalcoatl

Steve-

Steve yells: Quetz! Philip1978!


What? What is it?

- Reads the article -

THIS IS SACRILEGE! HOW DARE THESE HEATHENS DESTROY THE SACRED SYMBOL OF QUETZALCOATL!!!

But the religious authorities fully approve of the state's actions. Haji Mohammed bin Junoh, the imam of the largest mosque in the area, said: "Pin is a deviationist. It is possible that he is dealing with Satan


THESE RELIGIOUS AUTHORITIES WILL HAVE TO "DEAL WITH" MY WRATH! TERRIBLE WILL BE MY VENGEANCE!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:21:00 UTC | #131418

Shaden's Avatar Comment 12 by Shaden

Now how am I going to make the Captain his Earl Grey?

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:25:00 UTC | #131421

jiujitstheist's Avatar Comment 13 by jiujitstheist

Once again. Two words in this article that are frightening.

"Religious Police"

This never fails to give me the shivers.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:26:00 UTC | #131424

Mango's Avatar Comment 14 by Mango

Malaysia is traditionally a liberal Islamic state. Apostasy is illegal for Muslims.


Everything's relative, I guess.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:14:00 UTC | #131458

baley's Avatar Comment 15 by baley

What a bunch of Morons.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:17:00 UTC | #131461

al-rawandi's Avatar Comment 16 by al-rawandi

Muslims have a strong history of flailing away at offensive structures.


All the male date palms in al-'Uyayna were felled by Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab because people thought the trees would bring fertility.

Are they stupider for praying to palm trees or for killing the trees because God will get mad that they are praying to the trees.

Toss up.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:23:00 UTC | #131464

Goldy's Avatar Comment 17 by Goldy

Muslims have a strong history of flailing away at offensive structures.


All the male date palms in al-'Uyayna were felled by Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab because people thought the trees would bring fertility.

Dare say some are worse than others. Saudis are particularly virulent, even to the extent of destroying anything to do with Mohammed in case it becomes a shrine (which, I suppose, could be seen as idolatory).
There was an article once in the NYT about Afghans making pilgramges to Mujahideen graves - seems they felt it was lucky or something.
Just read this, though...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/world/middleeast/04youth.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin
Seems one can go too far down the religious path and turn the followers away :-) Maybe there is hope for Islam after all. And one has to think why Europe is so much less religious than in earlier times...

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:13:00 UTC | #131481

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 18 by Bonzai

While the teapot cult is stupid it seems pretty harmless, The followers don't have a problem with other religions and the fun looking, amusement park like constructs might actually be great tourist attractions.

But no, Islam has to crush everything which it deems heretic. This got to demonstrate the fallacy that all religions are equally bad because they are equally false. Some are way worse than others.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:25:00 UTC | #131482

Vaal's Avatar Comment 20 by Vaal

Haji Mohammed bin Junoh, the imam of the largest mosque in the area, said: "Pin is a deviationist. It is possible that he is dealing with Satan."


Does a 21st Century sentient being, with all his faculties intact actually believe that? Religion really is a mental illness. He should be wheeled off in a straitjacket, gibbering that sort of nonsense. Words fail me!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:30:00 UTC | #131484

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 19 by Bonzai

Dare say some are worse than others. Saudis are particularly virulent, even to the extent of destroying anything to do with Mohammed in case it becomes a shrine


I know that, The Wahabis built a parking lot on Mohammad's grave and they had tried to blow it up before.I always wonder where are the angry Muslim mobs around the world who should be shouting death to Saudi Arabia.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:30:00 UTC | #131483

SRWB's Avatar Comment 21 by SRWB

...Pin, who holds that every religion is equally valid...

Not just equally valid, but equally foolish, wrong, contradictory and divisive as well. What next?

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:40:00 UTC | #131489

Bonzai's Avatar Comment 22 by Bonzai


Not just equally valid, but equally foolish, wrong, contradictory and divisive as well. What next?


Surly not equally divisive, I won't hold my breath for Muslims to say that all religions are equally valid like these teapotists do.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:42:00 UTC | #131490

SRWB's Avatar Comment 23 by SRWB

Surly not equally divisive,

Do you mean "surly" or "surely" (either fits :-))

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:49:00 UTC | #131496

Ed-words's Avatar Comment 25 by Ed-words

Is this any crazier than what I believed till I was 19 yrs old? (49 years ago)

Namely,that priests could turn bread
and wine into the body and blood of Christ!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:46:00 UTC | #131573

rod-the-farmer's Avatar Comment 26 by rod-the-farmer

Another article on intelligent thinking - this one about the rights of women in Islam.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=247122

(shakes head)

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:36:00 UTC | #131640

dsainty's Avatar Comment 27 by dsainty

I wonder whether this place was built purely to have a laugh at religion.

Regardless, I can imagine coming out with inner peace after visiting a playground with enormous teapots. Cool! :)

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:18:00 UTC | #131670

MaxD's Avatar Comment 28 by MaxD

If the guy was dealing with satan as the religious authorities charge this satan is more charming, and inventive than I have ever given the entity credit for being. And lets not forget opptimistic. I mean what tempter in their right mind would say, "what's the best strategy for Malayasia?...Hmmmm a big fucking tea pot and and compound I'll call 'The Sky Kingdom!"

Do these muslim authorities ever stop to think about how silly their actions and offense taking is?

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:50:00 UTC | #131678

Affront's Avatar Comment 29 by Affront

Insane. They will drive the Teapotists underground, turn their young into fanatics and massively strengthen the cause of Teapotism. After all, 99.9 percent of us hadn't heard of Allah's Giant Teapot until the Malaysian government destroyed it. Atheists though we are, I bet many of us were more sympathetic to the poor old Teapotists that we were to the dastardly 'religious police'.

If only Islam could take on board the idea of 'having a sense of humour' but I guess that we'll have to wait a few more centuries for that.

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:58:00 UTC | #131680

Big T's Avatar Comment 30 by Big T

Quetzalcoatl, they have blasphemed against ye! Smite ye them! Quetzalcoatl is Great! Death to blasphemers! Death to infidels! Go get 'em Quetz! Let them feel the wrath of the Plumed Serpent!

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:07:00 UTC | #131689