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Raigen's Avatar Comment 1 by Raigen

*facepalm*

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:52:00 UTC | #135094

Quetzalcoatl's Avatar Comment 2 by Quetzalcoatl

For the love of Satan. 23 complaints. 23. That's all. The ASA really is scared of its own shadow.

Personally, I didn't find the adverts at all offensive, in fact, I rather liked them. ;)

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:00:00 UTC | #135098

DavidJGrossman's Avatar Comment 3 by DavidJGrossman

Step 1: Create controversial ad
Step 2: Wait for cries of persecution from xians
Step 3: Free publicity!

Can you say "Barbara Streisand Effect"? I knew you could.

- Dave

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:02:00 UTC | #135100

DamnDirtyApe's Avatar Comment 4 by DamnDirtyApe

Ahem, blasphemy laws abolished... how the heck does this stand?

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:12:00 UTC | #135105

epeeist's Avatar Comment 5 by epeeist

Comment #142369 by DavidJGrossman

Step 1: Create controversial ad
Step 2: Wait for cries of persecution from xians
Step 3: Free publicity!

Obligatory slashdot addition:

4. Profit!

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:16:00 UTC | #135108

steve8282's Avatar Comment 6 by steve8282

During "erotic things" is the only time I like to hear the Mrs. talk about god.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:00 UTC | #135109

Geoff's Avatar Comment 7 by Geoff

I think the ads should be banned: they're clearly trying to insinuate that prayer has some effect.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:28:00 UTC | #135114

Gustaf Sjoblom's Avatar Comment 8 by Gustaf Sjoblom

I'm going to stick out quite a bit here and say that the ASA probably did the right thing. :O

The sole reason for this would be the t turned into a cross. It directly references a specific religion. If they simply changed it to a normal t I see no trouble with the ad.

The reasoning here is that a company should not use a specific religion (or another company, or a person) in any way in its ads. Not draw from its goodwill or gain points for bashing it or anything.

Use of the cross is a bit like using the logo of another company. The cross isn't copyrighted, so it isn't illegal, but it is the kind of thing that a self regulating body such as the ASA should move against.

All other pretexts given by the ASA is obviously complete nonsense. And it makes them look silly while doing the right thing and is therefor completely counterproductive.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:32:00 UTC | #135117

epeeist's Avatar Comment 9 by epeeist

Comment #142386 by Gustaf Sjoblom


The sole reason for this would be the t turned into a cross. It directly references a specific religion. If they simply changed it to a normal t I see no trouble with the ad.
So what you are saying is that the use of the cross is crass.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:40:00 UTC | #135122

Logicel's Avatar Comment 10 by Logicel

...including one from the Archdeacon of Liverpool, objecting that the ads were offensive to the Christian faith.

_______

And his point is?

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:45:00 UTC | #135126

DrShell's Avatar Comment 11 by DrShell

ARRRRGH! Are they serious? THAT's their reason for finding this offensive? The problem here is the systematic denial of women's needs and internal lives, this idea that our only concerns involve (and should involve) stupid superficial nonsense like our hair curls and whether we're winning the eternal beauty contest and making other women despise us enough. I hate this shit so much.

Oh, I'm so angry now. These jerks clutching their pearls all "gasp, my sacred religion associated with women and sexuality" but never "gasp, women portrayed as foolish halfwits who can't even do something as stupid as Christianity right."

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:50:00 UTC | #135131

schwie's Avatar Comment 12 by schwie

What's wrong with the ad? Check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyZDD0yccQI&NR=1

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:50:00 UTC | #135132

Matt H.'s Avatar Comment 13 by Matt H.

Can I ban 'Songs of Praise'? I find it offensive. Thanks.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:58:00 UTC | #135143

Shaden's Avatar Comment 14 by Shaden

Well, they got the music right at least; can't go wrong with Yann Tiersen.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:01:00 UTC | #135148

bluebird's Avatar Comment 15 by bluebird

schwie, thanks, I was hoping to view the ad. I think it's rather clever, and I like it.

Must be uncomfortable for the religious to always have their bloomers in a bunch.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:03:00 UTC | #135149

V'Ger's Avatar Comment 16 by V'Ger

Does anybody remember 'This Morning With Richard But Not Judy'? If not - check for clips on youtube.

That was full of sketches that openly poked fun at the Christian faith, and went out every Sunday morning for weeks. Did that one pass them by?

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:08:00 UTC | #135151

Gustaf Sjoblom's Avatar Comment 17 by Gustaf Sjoblom

Comment #142391 by epeeist

So what you are saying is that the use of the cross is crass.


Yep.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:15:00 UTC | #135152

MrPickwick's Avatar Comment 18 by MrPickwick

All these comments are great but you all seem to miss the point... What we should find out is whether the praying thing worked or not? (and, now that I think of it, if it does work, what's the use of whatever the ghd firm is selling?) It's so confusing...

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:05:00 UTC | #135178

V'Ger's Avatar Comment 19 by V'Ger

Just watched the ad - and can't believe that anybody can be offended by that! But then, by the sounds of it, hardly anyone actually complained.

Have we reached the point now - when 60 million people have to be carefull not to offend 25?

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:15:00 UTC | #135183

Fiesoduck's Avatar Comment 20 by Fiesoduck

If 23 nobodies can have such an effect, then something is very wrong with a country.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:20:00 UTC | #135186

V'Ger's Avatar Comment 21 by V'Ger

Sorry... couldn't help pushing this clip from... I love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRFbNFf6Ig8&feature=related

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:20:00 UTC | #135187

phatbat's Avatar Comment 22 by phatbat

Does anybody remember 'This Morning With Richard But Not Judy'? If not - check for clips on youtube.

That was full of sketches that openly poked fun at the Christian faith, and went out every Sunday morning for weeks. Did that one pass them by?


Yeah i remember - absolutely hilarious - they're all on youtube see these ones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70IAwHTzrHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFtrlZn_H5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBzavvUIAR4

We have Stuart Lee to thank for them (of Jerry springer the opera fame)

He's a bloody good stand up comedian too

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:22:00 UTC | #135189

V'Ger's Avatar Comment 23 by V'Ger

Stewart Lee rules.

Saw a recording of a gig he did in Scotland - which was awesome.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:24:00 UTC | #135190

IanLowe's Avatar Comment 24 by IanLowe

I'm willing to forgive the ASA this time - they have been a potent force for sorting out christian "healing" services.

Check out the archive of their previous decisions, and look at how many times they have told some bunch of religious wackos "put up the proof, are shut up".

despite the odd one or two dropped balls, the ASA are the good guys.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:28:00 UTC | #135194

notsobad's Avatar Comment 25 by notsobad

Sure they were outraged.
It showed how superficial and full of wishful thinking religion is.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:40:00 UTC | #135202

mattmason75's Avatar Comment 26 by mattmason75

Seems to me that religious people are now determined to out victim each other. This competitive streak must stop...

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:45:00 UTC | #135207

tieInterceptor's Avatar Comment 27 by tieInterceptor

we should start a group or mail list so we can organize complaints, we only need a few dozen by the looks of it...

works for the Christians on tv, and works for the Muslims to get videos out of youtube... we should just apply that technique too.

apparently if you don't cry, you don't suckle

(this Spanish saying translates a bit weird)

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:38:00 UTC | #135239

Richard Morgan's Avatar Comment 28 by Richard Morgan

I'm going to complain about all the ads that have no references to religion,as they could offend atheists.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:49:00 UTC | #135242

justdust's Avatar Comment 29 by justdust

OK the ASA have heard from the monkeys - will they hear from the Supreme Organ Grinder? I think not.

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:12:00 UTC | #135258

liberalartist's Avatar Comment 30 by liberalartist

I didn't find the ad offensive. Have they even looked at Bernini's "Ecstasy of St. Teresa"? Now that's erotic!

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:50:00 UTC | #135260