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Dr Doctor's Avatar Comment 1 by Dr Doctor

What a dumbarsed picture that is.

(The comment with the picture in it was above this post, it seems to have been deleted).

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:46:00 UTC | #299956

Rodger T's Avatar Comment 2 by Rodger T

Don`t mind them , they are from Barthelona.

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:02:00 UTC | #299959

Ohnhai's Avatar Comment 3 by Ohnhai

where is the link to the fund raising page?

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:06:00 UTC | #299960

Rodger T's Avatar Comment 4 by Rodger T

"the Catholic archbishoprick of Barcelona."


Thats not a Freudian slip ,thats a Freudian fall on your arse inadvertent truth.

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:10:00 UTC | #299961

aw6334's Avatar Comment 5 by aw6334

"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy life."

This campaign will be used by religious manipulators as (yet) another example of militant, shrill, and strident atheists.

Bring it on!

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:14:00 UTC | #299962

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 6 by Richard Dawkins

The spread of the Spanish campaign will also depend on how much funding atheist groups can raise.

Donations have been flooding into the fund opened by the Catalan Atheists. "We raised a thousand euros in the first day," the group said. "At this rate we will be able to take the campaign to Madrid as well."

If any members of the Spanish bus campaign read this, please feel free to send in details for how to subscribe. Not just in English, in Spanish (and Catalan?) too.

It is very encouraging to learn that this seems to be hurting the Catholic Church in Spain (the church that backed Franco).

Richard

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:31:00 UTC | #299966

Ian's Avatar Comment 7 by Ian

Yes, I would like to make a donation. Please provide details.

It's interesting to see the religious becoming shrill.

Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:59:00 UTC | #299979

Gironzolatore's Avatar Comment 8 by Gironzolatore

See "Donaciones" tab at

http://www.busateo.org/

Cheers

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:14:00 UTC | #299981

binlid's Avatar Comment 9 by binlid

I would love to see a similar campaign here in catholic Ireland .I am just being sarcastic when I say catholic Ireland iam living here 40 years and have meet maybe 10 genuine Catholics and that's 10 too many I know .

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:30:00 UTC | #299989

Paula Kirby's Avatar Comment 10 by Paula Kirby

"It is an attack on all religions," said Javier Maria Perez-Roldan of the church's Tomas Moro centre
Well spottted, that man. Perhaps he should tell Eamonn Holmes and others in the UK who have made the predictable comments whingeing that "They wouldn't be allowed to get away with attacking any religion other than Christianity".

"The government has created an atmosphere of belligerence"
"... rather than the unquestioning obedience to the church that we have been insisting on for millennia. It's outrageous. The old ways suited us far better."

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:31:00 UTC | #299990

sunbeamforjesus's Avatar Comment 11 by sunbeamforjesus

Belligerence ?
We can't have that against the Catholic church!
We should all kiss the bishops ring and seek forgiveness!
Right where's my credit card?

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:36:00 UTC | #299992

binlid's Avatar Comment 12 by binlid

who the hell is eamoon holmes anyway . not that fat guy from tv is it .

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:39:00 UTC | #299994

Vanpastel's Avatar Comment 13 by Vanpastel

Comment #314989 by Richard Dawkins
At last a good reason to be proud of being a Spaniard, the information on how to donate to the campaing in Spanish and Catalan can be found in this link:
http://www.busateo.org/
Edit: Oh that link was already here, sorry.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:42:00 UTC | #299995

binlid's Avatar Comment 14 by binlid

you can get away with your life when taking the piss out of christianity in public and elsewhere but try it with Islam and see what happens . I think that was the point the fat guy from tv was trying to make . paula

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:44:00 UTC | #299998

DoctorE's Avatar Comment 15 by DoctorE

JudeoChristLam your god does not exist, be glad because he is a total looser :)

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:47:00 UTC | #300000

Hugo's Avatar Comment 17 by Hugo

Comment #315004 and #314989
Thanks and done, I hope this fresh wind of atheism continues to blow over the whole of Europe and the world!

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:48:00 UTC | #300003

Quetzalcoatl's Avatar Comment 16 by Quetzalcoatl

"It is an attack on all religions," said Javier Maria Perez-Roldan of the church's Tomas Moro centre


By this logic, adverts for Christianity are an attack on all other religions and non-believers. Yet somehow, I suspect that he would not see things that way.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:48:00 UTC | #300002

sornord's Avatar Comment 18 by sornord

Can't wait to hear the whining if/when this ever hits the US!

(I still don't know if the Root of All Evil program was ever broadcast there.)

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:50:00 UTC | #300005

andersemil's Avatar Comment 19 by andersemil

When will atheism stop being tied to socialism and fascism? It's ridiculous. My impression is that atheism is quite evenly spread across political views, it's just that some people don't know how to separate the two. Sigh. Such a long way to go, but at least we're slowly getting there.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:11:00 UTC | #300011

Vaal's Avatar Comment 20 by Vaal

"It is an attack on all religions," said Javier Maria Perez-Roldan of the church's Tomas Moro centre

Yes, well spotted that man.
The atheist campaign comes as Spain's Catholic church becomes increasingly involved in political campaigning.

Can't have your bread buttered on both sides, can you? Now do you have a small clue why atheists are becoming a lot more vocal?

Maybe they are afraid of the atheist inquisition, or more likely, the job centre.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:14:00 UTC | #300012

Paula Kirby's Avatar Comment 21 by Paula Kirby

Binlid: you can get away with your life when taking the piss out of christianity in public and elsewhere but try it with Islam and see what happens . I think that was the point the fat guy from tv was trying to make . paula
Yes, I know what point he and the others were trying to make: they make it constantly. The real point is that, as the church spokesman cited in this article has spotted, this slogan isn't specifically anti-Christianity, it's anti-religion. Which includes Islam. Which makes their whinges about Christianity being picked on rather redundant, doesn't it?

Christopher Hitchens laughs at the way Christians keep dragging up the Hitler/Stalin argument: his response is that, when you're dealing with opponents whose best argument is, "Well, say what you like about Christianity, at least we're not as bad as Hitler", you know you've already won. The same has to apply to these comments about Islam, wouldn't you think? "Well, say what you like about Christianity, at least it's not as foul as Islam" isn't a STRONG case, is it? Try standing up in court sometime and telling the judge, "Well, it's true that I stabbed my mother, but at least I didn't hack her to bits with a pickaxe" and see how far it gets you.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:22:00 UTC | #300021

Buchner's Avatar Comment 22 by Buchner

There's an English version of the campaign details, but not about making a donation.

I was too thick to follow the Spanish instructions

Can anyone provide a translation please....

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:36:00 UTC | #300032

Raiko's Avatar Comment 23 by Raiko

I am trying to grasp how this is an attack.

"There probably is no point to astrology. Now move on with your life and be happy." - would that be considered an attack on everything 'spiritual' or on every magazine as well?

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:39:00 UTC | #300035

Ivan The Not So Bad's Avatar Comment 24 by Ivan The Not So Bad

More news from Spain.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/06/europe/06church.php


A vital battleground for the RC Church, it seems.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:41:00 UTC | #300037

Paula Kirby's Avatar Comment 25 by Paula Kirby

Raiko: I am trying to grasp how this is an attack.
Well, that's a very fair point, Raiko. But it's "in opposition to", which is enough for these thin-skinned religious types to feel it's an attack. Besides which, Christianity teaches them that they are especially blessed if they are persecuted for their faith, which means they have a vested interest in being paranoid.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:46:00 UTC | #300042

irate_atheist's Avatar Comment 26 by irate_atheist

Fuck 'em.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:47:00 UTC | #300043

binlid's Avatar Comment 27 by binlid

I stand corrected paula . I forget there are so many gods as long as the bus campaign attacks all gods including Allah . then fair enough . as long as we leave Buddha out of this .

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:48:00 UTC | #300045

Rosbif's Avatar Comment 28 by Rosbif

It is an attack on all religions,"


Well how about a new campaign using varied slogans and then publisizing the reactions?

I was thinking of mix of slogans like:

"There's probably no Zeus so it's safe to go out in a storm"
"There are probably no fairies so enjoy the forest"
"There's probably no Apollo so just enjoy the sun"
There's probably no Eros, so love must be natural"
"There are probably no Unicorns, but Barbie still sells them"
"There's probably no Delling, but dawn happens all day everyday somewhere in the world"
"There's probably no Ehecatl, so just get out there and enjoy sailing"
"There's probably no Cizen, but you're going to die anyway"
"There's probably no Vulcan, but Pompei is still worth a visit"

etc ....

It might demonstrate the extent to which we are all athiestic about somethings and highlight the similarities between past and present mythical powers.

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:50:00 UTC | #300048

mixmastergaz's Avatar Comment 29 by mixmastergaz

Paula:

Has Eamonn Holmes waded in on the issue of the atheist bus campaign or was the cliched moan you mentioned above about something else(qm) It seems odd that he characterised this an attack on Christianity specifically. Obviously it's an attack on any monotheistic religion!

Eamonn Holmes eh (qm) What a 'heavyweight' intellectual. We're in trouble now folks! For some reason I'm reminded of an episode of Alan Partridge when one of his guests asks him who his favourite contemporary philosopher is an he replies "Peter Ustinov".

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:54:00 UTC | #300051

Paula Kirby's Avatar Comment 30 by Paula Kirby

mixmastergaz: Has Eamonn Holmes waded in on the issue of the atheist bus campaign or was the cliched moan you mentioned above about something else(qm) It seems odd that he characterised this an attack on Christianity specifically. Obviously it's an attack on any monotheistic religion!
Yes, he apparently made some comment wondering whether we'd have got away with it if it had been any religion other than Christianity we'd been bashing - I've seen it online, but I can't remember where just now and I'm late for work so can't stop to check.

The fact that it was Eamonn Holmes is pretty irrelevant - as you say, intellectually he's no Nicky Campbell, is he? ;-)))

But it's a response I'm hearing a lot - I lurk on a Christian Beliefs forum elsewhere and in their their discussion of the atheist buses, "They wouldn't do it about Islam" featured quite prominently.

Interesting, isn't it, how any follower of a monotheistic religion must AUTOMATICALLY assume it's their god we're talking about!

Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:00:00 UTC | #300055