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Mark Jones's Avatar Comment 1 by Mark Jones

Need to get someone of a legal bent to comment on this! Is this constitutional?

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:51:00 UTC | #333439

eclampusvitus's Avatar Comment 2 by eclampusvitus

Whereas the fine state of Oklahoma is infested with certain Okie fucktards,

BE IT RESOLVED that they pull their heads out of their Stone Age asses and get on with the legitimate business of the state.

ECV

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:52:00 UTC | #333440

Am I Evil?'s Avatar Comment 3 by Am I Evil?

I'm going to America in September, will do my best to avoid this black hole of ignorance and stupidity!

I'm sure there are good apples there too but from what I see, it's a total science Hindenburg over there.

And isn't there a glaring contradiction in there somewhere? "...open to all ideas" versus "...offensive to the views of most..."? Ugh!

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:53:00 UTC | #333442

firstelder_d's Avatar Comment 4 by firstelder_d

I knew Oklahoma was going to have a problem with RD visiting.

Comment #349486 by Mark Jones:
If you're thinking 1st amendment, I'm sure they'll spin it in a way that will make it sound like RD plans to brain wash people... blah blah blah.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:55:00 UTC | #333444

Peacebeuponme's Avatar Comment 6 by Peacebeuponme

Surely, surely, the Oklahoma House of Representatives has better things to be doing with its time.

I'm sure Oklahoma has borne its fair share of the brunt of the global recession we are in. Does their government not think such frivolity is better contemplated at other times?

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:00 UTC | #333451

VolcanicComet's Avatar Comment 7 by VolcanicComet

This guy needs to tune into Sanity FM.......

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:00 UTC | #333452

rod-the-farmer's Avatar Comment 5 by rod-the-farmer


....encourages the University of Oklahoma to engage in an open, dignified, and fair discussion of the Darwinian theory of evolution and all other scientific theories....

Well, that lets out creationism, as it is not scientific. Note too that there is no further discussion suggested on the alternatives to the theory of gravity.

How embarrassing for the inhabitants of OK. Can we hear from any residents what they plan to do ?

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:05:00 UTC | #333450

kaiserkriss's Avatar Comment 8 by kaiserkriss

Freedom of speech and expression of opinion are obviously a couple of concepts the proponent of this piece of legislation is totally unaware of. Or had Okie ceded from the Union in the last few days and the press missed it? jcw

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:06:00 UTC | #333454

PrimeNumbers's Avatar Comment 9 by PrimeNumbers

Awesome publicity for RD though.... Still, makes Oklahoma look stupid, out of touch, out of date and protecting a deep dark underbelly they're trying to hide...

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:06:00 UTC | #333455

BCReason's Avatar Comment 10 by BCReason

I'll be more upset if this nonsense passes. As far as I can tell from the article this is just one idiots idea.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:08:00 UTC | #333456

Tyler Durden's Avatar Comment 11 by Tyler Durden

Comment #349497 by rod-the-farmer

How embarrassing for the inhabitants of OK. Can we hear from any residents what they plan to do ?
Move?

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:09:00 UTC | #333457

rainKing99's Avatar Comment 12 by rainKing99

That does it, I'm boycotting the musical!

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:11:00 UTC | #333459

Lisa Bauer's Avatar Comment 13 by Lisa Bauer

I move that people tell State Representative Todd Thomsen what they think of this absolutely ridiculous and fatuous Proposed House Resolution 1015 (if they wish): todd.thomsen@okhouse.gov

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:12:00 UTC | #333461

Dhamma's Avatar Comment 14 by Dhamma

Isn't this just awesome?

As it's the 6th today I will, sadly, have to suppose they failed. Nonetheless, it should make him something of a martyr, which is a great success in itself.

Being banned from a state is pretty damn cool, though. And for what? Being open minded!

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:14:00 UTC | #333462

DoctorE's Avatar Comment 16 by DoctorE

Turkey, Oklahoma...

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:20:00 UTC | #333465

paulifa1's Avatar Comment 15 by paulifa1

Wow, just wow! Never mind discussing things like fixing bridges, potholed roads, or effective policing, you know, the type of things you expect government to do, no lets ban someone who has a difference of opinion (not to mention, the opinion any normal, not mentally deranged person would hold!)... just beyond beleif, what year is it over there, 1825 or something??

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:20:00 UTC | #333464

sbooder's Avatar Comment 17 by sbooder

Here we go, a list of emails for House Members of The Oklahoma House of Representatives








Armes, Don
donarmes@okhouse.gov

Auffet, John
johnauffet@okhouse.gov

Bailey, Dennis Ray
dennis.bailey@okhouse.gov

Banz, Gary W.
garybanz@okhouse.gov

Benge, Chris
chrisbenge@okhouse.gov

Billy, Lisa J.
lisajbilly@okhouse.gov

Blackwell, Gus
gusblackwell@okhouse.gov

Brannon, Neil
neilbrannon@okhouse.gov

Brown, Mike
mikebrown@okhouse.gov

Buck, Samson Ray
sam.buck@okhouse.gov

Cannaday, Ed
ed.cannaday@okhouse.gov

Carey, John
johncarey@okhouse.gov

Christian, Mike
mike.christian@okhouse.gov

Collins, Wallace
wallace.collins@okhouse.gov

Coody, Ann
anncoody@okhouse.gov

Cooksey, Marian
mariancooksey@okhouse.gov

Cox, Doug
dougcox@okhouse.gov

Dank, David
david.dank@okhouse.gov

Denney, Lee
leedenney@okhouse.gov

Derby, David
david.derby@okhouse.gov

DeWitt, Dale
daledewitt@okhouse.gov

Dorman, Joe
joedorman@okhouse.gov

Duncan, Rex
rexduncan@okhouse.gov

Enns, John
john.enns@okhouse.gov

Faught, George
george.faught@okhouse.gov

Fields, Eddie
eddie.fields@okhouse.gov

Glenn, Larry
larryglenn@okhouse.gov

Hamilton, Rebecca
rebeccahamilton@okhouse.gov

Harrison, Terry
terryharrison@okhouse.gov

Hickman, Jeffrey W.
jwhickman@okhouse.gov

Hilliard, Wes
weshilliard@okhouse.gov

Holland, Corey
corey.holland@okhouse.gov

get typing.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:23:00 UTC | #333466

jshuey's Avatar Comment 18 by jshuey

So in Oklahoma the validity of any science is to be determined by majority vote. Damn...sort of reminds me of when the Indiana legislature voted to make pi equal to 3.2!

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:25:00 UTC | #333467

MelM's Avatar Comment 19 by MelM

Very serious stuff. This is an attempt to push creationism into the state owned secular universities.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:27:00 UTC | #333468

dhudson0001's Avatar Comment 20 by dhudson0001

Ooo-klahoma, where the legislature is insane...

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:35:00 UTC | #333469

ColdFusionLazarus's Avatar Comment 21 by ColdFusionLazarus

I think the best way to handle this is to demand that the rights of free speech and decency be upheld. They should be able to petition students, staff and representatives of Oklahoma University. If 500 people sign the petition to say that they would find Richard's attendance to be offensive or that his attendance would purely anger the regular attendees of the university, then that should be sufficient to allow the administration to reverse their invitation for Richard to speak. Of course, to ensure free speech is still upheld, Richard should still be able to send in a recording of his speech and this should be made accessible to all through the services of the university's library. Richard should be welcome to send as many recordings and books as he wishes.

I'm sure the university already has a lively and entertaining history of debate, with many fine academics making useful contributions to discussions on evolution and science in general. There is no need to inflame such discussions by introducing new elements that are clearly more assertive in their atheism and views on science than the regular academics we have already grown to love. By keeping sticking with the normal discussions we will not be turning off new students from attending the usual interesting debates. No major platform on this occasion seems quite a sensible move.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:35:00 UTC | #333470

zecat's Avatar Comment 22 by zecat

HAHAHAAAA!!!... This is just too funny!..

Wait, are they serious?! Hmmm, actually that's quite pathetic. Hopefully something good will eventually come out of this event. Let's keep the faith!.. I mean, faith in Richard of course!

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:36:00 UTC | #333471

rod-the-farmer's Avatar Comment 23 by rod-the-farmer

More interesting stuff regarding freedom of speech in Oklahoma... These were all taken from OK newspaper web sites.


In an unanimous opinion in December, the federal Tenth Circuit Court of Appeals declared unconstitutional an Oklahoma law banning non-residents from helping collect signatures for ballot initiative petitions.


President Barack Obama recently declared his intention to mitigate global warming by enacting a cap-and-trade policy that would reduce carbon emissions 80 percent by the year 2050. But the last two years of global cooling have nearly erased 30 years of temperature increases. To the extent that global warming ever existed, it is now officially over.


Oklahoma bill to promote intelligent design talk fails

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-bill-to-promote-intelligent-design-talk-fails/article/3346291


Group files suit over 'I Believe' plates in SC

http://newsok.com/group-files-suit-over-i-believe-plates-in-sc/article/3234316

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:37:00 UTC | #333473

beeline's Avatar Comment 25 by beeline

So, just to be clear on this, they want to encourage open, dignified discussion about scientific theories, but they also want to see Richard Dawkins censored for, um, making open, dignified discussion of scientific theories.

Seems perfectly logical to me.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:38:00 UTC | #333475

andersemil's Avatar Comment 24 by andersemil

Terrible news, but about as unpredictable as spring after winter. This is the core of the bible belt we're talking about. RD can't be surprised either. And definitely just a big score for him. Evidently, these guys have NO idea how stupid they look. But then, when you live on the top floor of a house of cards like religious people do, you're bound to take desperate measures when someone coughs!

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:38:00 UTC | #333474

karlsavage's Avatar Comment 26 by karlsavage

I normally resolve to write well thought out and reasoned arguments against these type of actions but something so ludicrous that even goes beyond preventing free speech means all I can think to say about him is "what an idiot".

I hope no time at all is given to this and the bill is treated with the equal contempt he affording Professor Dawkins.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:42:00 UTC | #333476

FatherNature's Avatar Comment 27 by FatherNature

For those of you outside the USA, this type of meaningless resolution is a common time-waster in our state governments. Their workload is so light (everything is running so smoothly, after all) that just about every day some dipstick legislator proposes a resolution in honor of "The History of Cheese" or something. It has zero legal impact. All they are doing is saying "we disapprove" and sticking out their tongues. It does not ban Richard from the state or from speaking.

On the other hand, the veiled threat to the state Unversity by the government is more serious. The budget of the biology department or the whole U of O may receive closer scrutiny next year.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:42:00 UTC | #333477

MelM's Avatar Comment 28 by MelM

3000!!!

Barry Weaver, the geology professor in charge of Dawkins' visit, told The Daily that demand for tickets to the March 6 lecture prompted the move to the field house, which can seat more than 3,000 people.

http://oudaily.com/news/2009/jan/30/weaver-dawkins-lecture-be-field-house/

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:44:00 UTC | #333478

rokeisland's Avatar Comment 29 by rokeisland

Wow. If i was the university President, I'd crumple up the letter and wipe my butt with it.

On the other hand, I'm in agreement with the veiled threat pointed out by FatherNature. So the president will have to be politically correct when telling the legislature to fuck off.

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:45:00 UTC | #333480

severalspeciesof's Avatar Comment 30 by severalspeciesof

Here's the e-mail address for the IDiot that proposed this resolution nonsense:

todd.thomsen@okhouse.gov

Do with this info as you wish, though keep in mind FatherNature's comment #349524...

And I had to come back for this... *shakes head*

Fri, 06 Mar 2009 06:47:00 UTC | #333481