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Dog Boots's Avatar Comment 1 by Dog Boots

I'm Danish. According to the Danish news services he was not just armed with a knife, but with an axe which he threw at one of the officers - prompting the shots.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:08:00 UTC | #427609

a non e-moose's Avatar Comment 2 by a non e-moose

I'd hate to be Kurt right now. Chances are he and his family will be living in fear for quite some time.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:27:00 UTC | #427613

quisquose's Avatar Comment 3 by quisquose

When you've got god on your side that justifies your actions whatever they are.

He's probably sat smug in his cell right now thinking he's right and everybody else is wrong.


Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:28:00 UTC | #427614

Stafford Gordon's Avatar Comment 4 by Stafford Gordon

This guy should think himself lucky that he was only shot in the shoulder and knee; in a less civilized country he would probably have had his head blown off.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 10:33:00 UTC | #427617

Pete.K's Avatar Comment 5 by Pete.K

This guy should think himself lucky that he was only shot in the hand and knee; in a less civilized country he would probably have had his head blown off.

The guy was lucky, because if the Danish police were shooting as trained, they were aiming for the largest target, the trunk of the body. Despite the Hollywood myth, it is virtually impossible to wing someone in a frantic situation like the Danish police would have been in.

The British press keep harping on about a 'shoot to kill policy' but from my own training there is only one way to shoot, and that's at the main trunk of the body, which of course has potentially lethal results. The training is shoot to hit, not shoot to slightly wound.

Anyone setting out to kill deserves an equal response, if that is what is required to stop them doing it again.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:08:00 UTC | #427620

RichardofYork's Avatar Comment 6 by RichardofYork

Must be an anxious time , having a religion of peace after your blood

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:11:00 UTC | #427621

BicycleRepairMan's Avatar Comment 7 by BicycleRepairMan

I'd like to hear people like Robert Wright explain how the war in Iraq is partially responsible for attacks like this. (see his recent with hitchens:

Like Hitchens points out, as as incidents like this shows, it is bullshit. Islamists couldnt give two shits about their own people being slaughtered, their minds are so warped that the only thing worth protecting to them is Islam itself, and islam, as we all know, despite being invented by God himself, is so frail that a single page in a small Danish newspaper can do some serious damage apparantly, and if thats true, then noone can reasonably expect to share planet earth with these lunatics.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:12:00 UTC | #427622

scottishgeologist's Avatar Comment 8 by scottishgeologist

PeteK - Interesting - I had heard that before from a police officer, regarding aiming for the trunk

So, do you think that thelimb shots were accidental rather than deliberate?

I am just trying to envisage the situation - did they make the spur of the moment decision "oh, shit, if we kill this guy we give them a martyr"

Or does it all happen so fast that making decisions like that doesnt enter into it?

Just wondering

Happy New Year BTW all RDnetters!


Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:16:00 UTC | #427625

Sigmund's Avatar Comment 9 by Sigmund

Aim for the trunk?
That's the last thing we need, a fundamentalist elephant with a grudge. Besides, think of the problems - draw just one cartoon of Mohammad and they will never forget!
Westergaard is lucky he isn't living in Ireland at the moment. With the current legislation if he called the police they would have probably joined forces with the axeman.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:23:00 UTC | #427626

SaintStephen's Avatar Comment 10 by SaintStephen

That's the last thing we need, a fundamentalist elephant with a grudge.

Or a Republican carrying a seaman's chest. Or maybe that's what you meant...

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:29:00 UTC | #427628

donttellhimpike's Avatar Comment 11 by donttellhimpike

It's important that we encourage the mocking of religion at every opportunity. While I appreciate that some of these nutjobs will take every opportunity to seek out offense and murder the mirthful, the moderates must be taught to get over themselves through desensitising. Then perhaps the moderates will speak out against these dress wearing, bad beard owning, women hating, bombpant modeling cocks.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:32:00 UTC | #427629

Swordmaiden's Avatar Comment 12 by Swordmaiden

I put BBC news on radio this morning, the first 2 items: the 1st was this one (Muslim with knife & axe trying to kill Danish guy) and the 2nd was about the Muslim who set fire to his nadgers while trying to blow up a plane on Xmas Day.
Is there a pattern here d'ya think?

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:40:00 UTC | #427631

quisquose's Avatar Comment 13 by quisquose

The 3rd one would have been the suicide bomber at the volleyball game I guess.

Happy New Year.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:54:00 UTC | #427635

evotruth's Avatar Comment 14 by evotruth

Lets take away the attention from Mr Westergaard and create our own cartoons and put them on youtube or something... I can't draw (that might be a good thing) but will give it a go!

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:11:00 UTC | #427637

Rawhard Dickins's Avatar Comment 15 by Rawhard Dickins

Shit, I'm going under cover!

Do you like the wig?

Can you tell it's me?

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:23:00 UTC | #427638

God fearing Atheist's Avatar Comment 16 by God fearing Atheist

Oh the irony. He drew a cartoon pointing out Islam was violent.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:46:00 UTC | #427641

TrickyDicky's Avatar Comment 17 by TrickyDicky

Better aim could have saved the Danish tax payers the cost of a trial and years of incarceration.

Inadequate firearms training.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:50:00 UTC | #427642

MauyThaiGuy's Avatar Comment 18 by MauyThaiGuy

I took a firearms course while at the Sheriff's Academy and was also trained to shoot for center of mass. That being said, I saw a YouTube where Russian police officers shoot a man in the leg who was threatening them with an object.

Maybe some countries use non-center mass shooting as non-lethal force. It did take a lot of shots before they hit him so I don't think this is the best of ideas.

It is to bad he was not killed but maybe in court they can show just how truly crazy and non-repentant he is and that will enlighten people a bit?

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:01:00 UTC | #427644

Ron Millam's Avatar Comment 19 by Ron Millam

Comment #446260 by Stafford Gordon on January 2, 2010 at 10:33 am
This guy should think himself lucky that he was only shot in the shoulder and knee; in a less civilized country he would probably have had his head blown off.

Just the opposite, I would think. He considers himself very unlucky since he has two failures to deal with. He failed to rid the world of this blasphemer, and he failed to die in his attempt to become a martyr. I suppose he'll just have to wait for his river of honey and 72 virgins.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:23:00 UTC | #427646

RichardofYork's Avatar Comment 20 by RichardofYork

I dont think theres need for firearms , just wipe your ass on a page from the koran and watch him explode in a fit of incandescent rage

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:29:00 UTC | #427647

Ron Millam's Avatar Comment 21 by Ron Millam

Uh -- when I said

He failed to rid the world of this blasphemer
you could tell it was tongue-in-cheek, right? I wouldn't want anyone to think I'd converted.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:36:00 UTC | #427649

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 22 by Ignorant Amos

15. Comment #446283 by Rawhard Dickins

eh! eh! eh! ya wanna feckin staat! (in a scouse accent)

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:03:00 UTC | #427654

Nunbeliever's Avatar Comment 23 by Nunbeliever

Good news: Kurt is alive
Bad news: The f***ing moron is alive. The danish police should take some shooting lessons, and maybe they'll hit the target in the face next time...

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:05:00 UTC | #427655

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 24 by Ignorant Amos

22. Comment #446300 by Nunbeliever

Freaky....a drinking pal of mine suggested the very same thing to me in the pub yesterday.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:06:00 UTC | #427656

black wolf's Avatar Comment 25 by black wolf

It's good that the attacker is alive. They might get some information about his contacts from him. If he's as deranged as the reports describe, he'll not be difficult to get talking.

My security training in the army encouraged us to shoot the legs if the safety distance allowed it. If this attacker threw his axe at the police and was thereby unarmed, they could have had enough "wiggle room" in spacetime to not shoot to kill. During my training excercises, I was attacked by a knife-wielding petty officer, and I shot him in the leg from a short distance (blank cartridge). Of course, a shot from an assault rifle has a bit more stopping power than a regular pistol would have.
But, they might as well just have missed the torso, who knows. I'm sure the protocols of the operation will state what happened.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:28:00 UTC | #427658

sidelined's Avatar Comment 26 by sidelined

I think Billy Connolly said it best in his stage show.

I think it is necessary that the attacks on Islam {and other diseases of the mind too} for their stupidity must be continuous and ,if possible, comedic since it seems that the leaders of these sheep are completely without a sense of humour.
Maybe enough jokes floating about among the ridicule will drive home the point that,even though you are free to believe as you wish, so is everyone else.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:29:00 UTC | #427659

Notstrident's Avatar Comment 27 by Notstrident

The article states that the Danish Intelligence Service said the attack was "terror related." Mince words much? Tell it like it was: It was ISLAM CAUSED!

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:31:00 UTC | #427660

phasmagigas's Avatar Comment 28 by phasmagigas

a perfect demonstration of what belief in god can do, the artist needed a safe room, and it proved to be needed.

Still, the apologists will still say 'thats not my type of religion' if things had been different even the artists decapitated remains (seems to be a favourite dispatch method of especially pious or just plain savage islamic extremists) wouldnt have made a difference to many.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:09:00 UTC | #427666

phasmagigas's Avatar Comment 29 by phasmagigas


that the leaders of these sheep are completely without a sense of humour.

religion uniquely removes humour from human minds, i have several family members who have made strong ties to islamic belief and it has resulted in them becoming thoroughly miserable and they dont even realise it.

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:12:00 UTC | #427668

Donald's Avatar Comment 30 by Donald

Thank goodness he only drew a cartoon about the religion of peace, otherwise he could be in real trouble.

Incidentally, what does the phrase Dar-al-Harb mean?

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:23:00 UTC | #427673