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prettygoodformonkeys's Avatar Comment 1 by prettygoodformonkeys

The more information comes out about the cover-up, the harder it will be to hide the source of this disgusting behaviour: belief in divine authority.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:16:00 UTC | #452545

MrPickwick's Avatar Comment 2 by MrPickwick

One more.

This is shameful; not the evil and disgusting actions perpetrated by the church with the explicit approval of Pope Ratzi, but the absolute inaction of all the law enforcement agencies, judges and police departments from around the world.

What does it take for honest people to turn their heads when little kids have been raped? to pretend nothing has happened? to make up excuses to protect the rapists and the ones who did everything they could to hide their crimes? What?... Religion!

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:22:00 UTC | #452548

SaganTheCat's Avatar Comment 3 by SaganTheCat

The Vatican newspaper, L'Osservatore, published a front-page editorial, claiming there is a media conspiracy to smear the Pope's name.


Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:32:00 UTC | #452554

Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 4 by Cook@Tahiti

This mess needs cleaning up. Where's Ted Haggard?

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:42:00 UTC | #452557

gumby gumby's Avatar Comment 5 by gumby gumby

This is not a surprise.

The church is probably the most cruel institution of all-time, the Crusades, Inquisition and now the sexual abuse against poor children. They should have shame of this acts, the people should realize that when their children are going to the church they are going to a dangerous place, with stupid priests that just want to abuse them.

Think of all the children who have their lives changed by idiot priests serving a stupid church that in all history has been the most disgusting institution in the world.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:43:00 UTC | #452558

Prankster's Avatar Comment 6 by Prankster

When will this stop? WHEN???

Every day more and more stories highlighting the abuse of children and people in the care of this disgusting criminal organisation, emerge and Il Papa just smiles benignly amd mutters "Sorry". Well that's not fucking enough Joe.

I fervently hope the victims get the justice they deserve and collectively hit these bastards through whatever legal system they have, where it hurts, right in the Vatican's coffers. These fucks appear morally and spiritually bankrupt anyway, lets go the whole hog, get them sued and make them monetarily bankrupt. Evil, sick fuckers.

And the prime mover behind all this deception, spin and cover-up dares to come to the UK later this year, probably to preach morals and guidance to us. He should be arrested the second the twisted old reptile lands on British soil.

I hope the exposure of these activities proves to be one of the final nails in the coffin of this institution. It's end can't come soon enough for me. I hate it and all it stands for, greed corruption and lies.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:49:00 UTC | #452562

Cube's Avatar Comment 7 by Cube

The only respectable thing to do for all the priests involved, including the Pope, is to step down.

Apologizing is not enough, there needs to be some accountability here.

Even politicians who do something as relatively minor as cheat on their wives, usually have the decency to resign when they get busted.

What does the Vatican do? They claim its all a conspiracy to make the Pope look bad. Give me a break... he's doing a good enough job of that on his own!

And what's their excuse for not acting on the Wisconsin scandal? "We didn't find out about it until 20 years later".


Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:05:00 UTC | #452568

Steven Mading's Avatar Comment 8 by Steven Mading

It's going to reach a point where it's only a news story when it's discovered that there's a country where the Catholic church didn't have a child rape cover-up scandal.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:07:00 UTC | #452569

Pete.K's Avatar Comment 9 by Pete.K

The scale of the cover up is only just beginning to become obvious, and I have no doubt that many more revelations have yet to come.

As I wrote this post I received a very timely Tweet from Jesus and Mo:

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:38:00 UTC | #452573


Anyone want to join with me in writing their elected politician/government demanding an extradition warrant be issued for Joseph Ratzinger et al.
I'm sure the diplomatic immunity card would be played, if it ever got that far, but the point would be made.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:39:00 UTC | #452574

Danieldevdoteu's Avatar Comment 11 by Danieldevdoteu


I keep hearing about these types of abuses on children lately from priests and I find it very, very disturbing. I've yet to read the story on that newspaper, but if it's true then it makes sense that the government is trying to protect somehow the church. I think that here in Italy it would be somehow more difficult that in other countries to prosecute the priests due to the high power of the Vatican. In my opinion they shouldn't be treated differently and if found guilty they should get jail time.


Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:47:00 UTC | #452576

IPV4's Avatar Comment 12 by IPV4

Can you imagine the amount of children out there that never came forward for fear of embarrassment? I can only guess, but that number must be huge.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:07:00 UTC | #452588

Daisy Skipper's Avatar Comment 13 by Daisy Skipper

I really hope these scandals are the end of the catholic church, but I believe that won't happen in my lifetime.

Religious people have this amazing ability to tell themselves, "that's not part of my religion". This keeps their faith intact while the foundation those beliefs are based on crumbles.

Practicing Catholics will see this as an isolated problem and they'll miss the point that their shitty religion all but encourages this garbage to happen. They'll look for scape goats, then blame it on the media (which is now starting to happen). But they'll never question their own belief.

As Sam Harris said the other day (to paraphrase): "your belief provides the shade that religious extremists relax under". I think this applies also to every-day Catholics.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:10:00 UTC | #452592

Stafford Gordon's Avatar Comment 14 by Stafford Gordon

It's the fault of society at large, and the negative influence the children in their care have on the holy fathers; or, is it the trolls and the demons?

Hard to tell really.

One thing is certain, it's not the fault of the church, the pope or the preists.

Ah, got it - it's the media!!!

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:15:00 UTC | #452597

Dr. Strangegod's Avatar Comment 15 by Dr. Strangegod

wound Benedict XVI
I'd love to.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:15:00 UTC | #452600

Darwinorlose's Avatar Comment 16 by Darwinorlose

The moral head of the Catholic Church has no morals.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:21:00 UTC | #452613

hairybreeks's Avatar Comment 17 by hairybreeks

The Catholic Church's position is reminiscent of that of Thomas à Becket; he also took the view that the Church, and not the King, had legal jurisdiction over the clergy.
No one seems to have told His Holiness that the RC Church no longer has jurisdiction in criminal matters.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:44:00 UTC | #452633

prettygoodformonkeys's Avatar Comment 18 by prettygoodformonkeys

Tear it all down. The Vatican would (does) make a lovely museum.

The World Museum Of Unnatural History.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 17:51:00 UTC | #452641

DocWebster's Avatar Comment 19 by DocWebster

It's far beyond the time that every responsible party step down. There are too few that are not in some way complicit in these crimes. The only sensible and humane thing to do is liquidate the entirety of the Roman Catholic empire and parcel out the proceeds to all the victims. Undoubtedly the unemployed priests left over that don't get jailed for their offenses would be much more cheaply supported on SSI provided they no longer preach. and I don't have to tell all of you how much better off the people the Church helps (themselves to) will be after the church is dust in the wind.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:01:00 UTC | #452651

FXR's Avatar Comment 20 by FXR

If anyone wants to assist in giving Herr Ratzinger and his child molesters a global black eye let me know. Just send me a PM.

There is also a website to co-ordinate protests againsts the popes visit to the UK.

If there is any justice in the world his visit shoud see the biggest street demos in history. The only difference between the Catholic church now and it's previous history is now people realise what they've always been doing.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:03:00 UTC | #452655

lackofgravitas's Avatar Comment 21 by lackofgravitas

There must be a website in English out there listing all these crimes of catholic monsters. If there isn't, there should be. And I'd be happy to host it.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:21:00 UTC | #452673

Prankster's Avatar Comment 22 by Prankster

Comment 472870 by debridement

Religious people have this amazing ability to tell themselves, "that's not part of my religion".

You hit the nail on the head, my friend. Apologists and the like will shake their heads and simply say parrot fashion what you've posted. These maggots hiding behind religion need exposing for what they are-child molesters, pure and simple and they need to be brought to account.

Bastards-if there is a hell for these people, burning in it for eternity just isn't enough.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:26:00 UTC | #452682

SamKiddoGordon's Avatar Comment 23 by SamKiddoGordon

Isnt the RCC just a coverup for NAMBLA£

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:35:00 UTC | #452689

Barry Pearson's Avatar Comment 24 by Barry Pearson

#472952 by lackofgravitas:
There must be a website in English out there listing all these crimes of catholic monsters.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:21:00 UTC | #452714

Philoctetes                                        's Avatar Comment 25 by Philoctetes

Prankster and many others make the point:
"Religious people have this amazing ability to tell themselves, "that's not part of my religion".
The onus is on them to say that their priests and their pope have dishonoured their religion far more than any of us atheistic rabble. Having said that they should demand the removal and prosecution of the alleged guilty parties. After which they can carry on believing as before. Who knows they may even use their overdue recourse to critical thinking to go on to question their theology/mythology

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:31:00 UTC | #452723

Eventhorizon's Avatar Comment 26 by Eventhorizon

"the evident and ignoble intent to wound Benedict XVI and his closest advisers at any cost."

Apologies to the church please. Apparently we're all forgetting that THEY are the victims in this

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:26:00 UTC | #452746

Rodger T's Avatar Comment 27 by Rodger T

The true nature of the catholic clergy is to prey on societies most vulnerable , and now chickens are coming home to roost .
Obviously consensual sex is an anathema to god and the church.

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:09:00 UTC | #452771

Alyson Miers's Avatar Comment 28 by Alyson Miers

"the evident and ignoble intent to wound Benedict XVI and his closest advisers at any cost."

Benny and his minions should have thought about that before they gave us so much ammunition! It doesn't "cost" the NYT anything to point out that the Vatican is all about enabling child abusers; it's practically effortless!

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:20:00 UTC | #452776

robotaholic's Avatar Comment 29 by robotaholic

it's turning into no big deal- this news is so relentless everyday to the point where it's now boring white noise - which is terrible

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:09:00 UTC | #452799

Ron Millam's Avatar Comment 30 by Ron Millam

2. Comment #472824 by MrPickwick on March 26, 2010 at 3:22 pm

This is shameful; .... the absolute inaction of all the law enforcement agencies, judges and police departments from around the world.

I'd be willing to bet that most law enforcement agencies, judges and police departments include large Catholic populations. And you can't expect a good Catholic cop to arrest a priest just because a child whines a bit. Besides, what good Catholic judge would hesitate to dismiss these charges?

It's critical that all religious insanity be removed from public service. Any public official displaying religious leanings while performing official duties should be taken out behind the barn and smacked in the head with a shovel. (Figuratively, of course -- I'm not advocating violence. Besides, I doubt we could find enough shovels.)

Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:19:00 UTC | #452818