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tomt's Avatar Comment 1 by tomt

The market place of ideas at work.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:00:17 UTC | #556390

Neurotic's Avatar Comment 2 by Neurotic

Celebrating ignorance.


Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:02:13 UTC | #556391

MMAtheist's Avatar Comment 3 by MMAtheist

Man, they are a witty bunch. That's for sure.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:03:49 UTC | #556392

Shawn Lawrence's Avatar Comment 4 by Shawn Lawrence

My, my, what an incisive argument they've employed. Emulating the tactics of school children - how profound! A 'counterpunch' indeed.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:07:21 UTC | #556395

Ryou Concord's Avatar Comment 5 by Ryou Concord

Well, we all know it's a myth and that we should celebrate reason, but I can see how that message might be a bit too biting for most people. I would have made the billboard with a little more pathos. Perhaps something along the lines of...
"You don't need the myth to be good
donate to charity this season
for goodness' sake"

Although, I wonder if there will be any biting words against Islam/Judaism/etc. on those big billboards? Seems we're free to have a peaceful battle-of-the-billboards by the looks of it.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:09:10 UTC | #556397

findingroots's Avatar Comment 6 by findingroots

read more link just takes you to the image..??

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:15:27 UTC | #556398

Matt B's Avatar Comment 7 by Matt B

So much for the second (?) commandment about graven images. I only hope this billboard wasn't painted or put up on a Sunday.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:18:01 UTC | #556399

Quine's Avatar Comment 8 by Quine

Good that it cost them. "is not" "is too!" "isn't!!" "IS!!!" "...

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:20:35 UTC | #556400

Canadian_J's Avatar Comment 9 by Canadian_J

Money well spent. NOT. God forbid( excuse the pun) but the Catholic League for Religion could have spend their money more wisely,Say for the poor during the holiday season. How many thousands of dollars was spent on that billboard that could have few hundred families over the holidays!.

In saying that, I am aware that the above can also be applied to the American Atheists, and it does to an extent. However, where Xmas will be celebrated religiously and comercially regardless, there is no need for the religious community to retaliate. They already have a monopoly on the holiday anyway. Their church numbers will not increase over the holidays because of their billboard,nor will new converts be pushing the church doors down to get in. But the Athiest billboard will at least give some pause for thought.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:28:18 UTC | #556402

Quine's Avatar Comment 10 by Quine

Comment 9 by Canadian_J :

... But the Athiest billboard will at least give some pause for thought.

A small sum, for truth.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:35:02 UTC | #556403

Phen's Avatar Comment 11 by Phen

What an awful comeback. No originality no thought. Just an embarrassingly lame "counterpunch"

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:39:02 UTC | #556404

hiruc's Avatar Comment 12 by hiruc

after that response, they've proven not only lack of reason, but of creativity too.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:43:03 UTC | #556407

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 13 by Neodarwinian

" You Know It's Real. "

I do?

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:45:55 UTC | #556408

Carl Sai Baba's Avatar Comment 14 by Carl Sai Baba

Of course, Bill "The League" Donohue is behind this.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:53:56 UTC | #556412

Carl Sai Baba's Avatar Comment 15 by Carl Sai Baba

Comment 5 by Ryou Concord :

but I can see how that message might be a bit too biting for most people. I would have made the billboard with a little more pathos. Perhaps something along the lines of..."You don't need the myth to be gooddonate to charity this seasonfor goodness' sake"

They got just as pissy over the gentle signs.

We could put up a sign that says "Somewhere out there, there is probably one person who doesn't believe in god" and we would be accused of assaulting christmas.

Wed, 01 Dec 2010 05:56:12 UTC | #556414

Blamer ..'s Avatar Comment 16 by Blamer ..

Wait. Really?

  • being or occurring in fact
  • having verified existence
  • not illusory
  • no less than what is stated
  • worthy of the name
  • not to be taken lightly
  • capable of being treated as fact
  • actual, being or reflecting the essential or genuine character of something
  • substantial, having substance
  • not imaginary
  • coinciding with reality, or
  • the basic unit of money in Brazil; equal to 100 centavos?
  • Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:03:15 UTC | #556416

    mordacious1's Avatar Comment 17 by mordacious1

    The following is from Bill Donohue:

    We decided to counterpunch after a donor came forward seeking to challenge the anti-Christmas statement by American Atheists. Our approach is positive, and services the common good. Theirs is negative, and is designed to sow division. It's what they do.

    So after Christian motorists have had their sensibilities assaulted as they exit New Jersey, they will experience a sense of joy, and satisfaction, as they enter New York City. It's what we do.

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:03:51 UTC | #556417

    mozzy_dee's Avatar Comment 18 by mozzy_dee

    Well they felt strongly enough to put up a sign instead of just dismiss ours.

    Not that Catholics have anything in the world to be defensive about, right?

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:04:31 UTC | #556418

    Quine's Avatar Comment 19 by Quine

    Tell them a fairy tale; it's what we do.

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:06:45 UTC | #556419

    mordacious1's Avatar Comment 20 by mordacious1

    Promote pedophilia. It's what we do.

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:16:26 UTC | #556423

    Quine's Avatar Comment 21 by Quine

    Forbid women from controlling their own bodies; it's what we do.

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:25:49 UTC | #556424

    Tray Donovan's Avatar Comment 22 by Tray Donovan

    And not at all surprising that Ol' Battlin' Billy decided on "counterpunch". Every time I see or hear that man, he is using language of a violent nature. So much anger in that man...

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:29:23 UTC | #556426

    kmoposse's Avatar Comment 23 by kmoposse

    You Know it's Real. This Season, Celebrate AIDs.

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:29:35 UTC | #556427

    Austin K's Avatar Comment 24 by Austin K

    Ah ha ha! What is this a Wendy's add? It sounds desperate. Absolutely desperate. That's the first thing that comes to mind when I look at it. Desperation. "You know it's real... really, it is.... I'm sure it is... I mean... it couldn't be a myth... could it?" And I'm glad they're deciding to change the name form Christmas to "Jesus" :P

    Merry Jesus everyone!

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:36:34 UTC | #556428

    Austin K's Avatar Comment 25 by Austin K

    The billboard itself looks like a can of Campbell's soup

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:37:40 UTC | #556429

    lynda's Avatar Comment 26 by lynda

    So Donahue thinks it's negative to celebrate reason. Yeah that sounds about right. Can't have any of that around to spoil a good story.

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:45:08 UTC | #556431

    mmurray's Avatar Comment 27 by mmurray

    We know it's true because wikipedia says:

    Meanwhile, the Gospel of John is silent on the nativity, [6] as is the Gospel of Mark,[7] which most textual critics consider the earliest of the canonical gospels. In the majority viewpoint, the Gospel accounts of the nativity are two contradictory narratives. [8][9] Matthew's narrative appeals to the gospel's Jewish audience by portraying Jesus as the prophesied Messiah and as like Moses. Here, where Jesus is born the king of the Jews, we have adoring magi, a worried king, and bloodshed. Luke's narrative appeals to that gospel's gentile audience, emphasizing Jesus' lowly birth. Here Jesus is born in a manger while his parents are traveling, and shepherds come to adore him, not magi. In any event, the majority of historians credit neither account with authenticity.

    Or maybe we don't know it's true.


    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:13:56 UTC | #556435

    davidjn's Avatar Comment 28 by davidjn

    Next to that billboard we need one that shows a talking snake, a talking burning bush, a fellow living inside a whale, and so on with the messsage "Think this is real too?".

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:21:56 UTC | #556439

    darkgently's Avatar Comment 29 by darkgently

    Wow. Total lack of creativity. Now every time someone sees this billboard they'll immediately think of the atheist one. Win for us!

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 07:44:01 UTC | #556443

    turner's Avatar Comment 30 by turner

    Mary doesn't look very middle eastern on that billboard. Wonder why?

    Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:19:31 UTC | #556454