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sbooder's Avatar Comment 1 by sbooder

Yet again we see the religion of peace in action.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:25:10 UTC | #573289

mozzy_dee's Avatar Comment 2 by mozzy_dee

People killed for believing something different than someone else. Genius.

Thanks alot, Religion!

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:33:40 UTC | #573295

AtheistEgbert's Avatar Comment 3 by AtheistEgbert

Shot by his own bodyguard. As if this monstrous act of cowardice and disloyalty were not bad enough, but it was because Salman Tanseer had the bravery to challenge blasphemy laws by having compassion for a woman sentenced to death.

Another example to show that Islam is a dangerous religion that must not be involved in politics.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:37:18 UTC | #573297

-TheCodeCrack-'s Avatar Comment 4 by -TheCodeCrack-

Silence, I kill you.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:44:10 UTC | #573301

James F's Avatar Comment 5 by James F

I have no problem calling these people (who defend Blasphemy laws) barbarians. Actually, that may be too tame a word.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:47:53 UTC | #573304

scotsman2010's Avatar Comment 6 by scotsman2010

A brave man whose life was needlessly cut short because of nothing else but religious nonsense.

I'm sure the 26-year-old now thinks he's some kind of brave warrior for Allah.

Islam is a major nasty in our world.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:54:39 UTC | #573306

zengardener's Avatar Comment 7 by zengardener

Will his name be a rallying call for the moderates or will they be afraid to speak it?

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:14:25 UTC | #573321

Galactor's Avatar Comment 8 by Galactor

No doubt, this brave bodyguard thought he was doing the right thing.

I just can't understand why they don't think Allah and Muhammad aren't tough enough to fight their own battles.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:15:30 UTC | #573322

Jonas Salk's Avatar Comment 9 by Jonas Salk

Yet another reason why more moderate Muslims do not speak out. They get killed if they do.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:19:56 UTC | #573325

RichardofYork's Avatar Comment 10 by RichardofYork

I choked laughing at "Silence I Kill you ". Excellent Codecrack , absolutely top drawer .But seriously, the assassin now has a need to hold onto his belief , he can't let it go or his time in prison or his life sentence won,t mean a thing to him . The Concorde fallacy doomed to strike again . Religion really is shit is,'t it ?

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:28:10 UTC | #573329

Stevehill's Avatar Comment 11 by Stevehill

Are we really supposed to believe that most Pakistanis want their lives ruled by ignorant, illiterate clerics?

What will it take for the people to reclaim their own country - a country which upon its foundation in 1947, Jinnah declared would be secular and would respect all faiths?

Pakistan is close to being a broken, failed state. But I refuse to believe most of the people support these idiots: we need to find ways to support the moderates today, if we don't want a bigger problem tomorrow.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:28:47 UTC | #573332

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 12 by Neodarwinian

Until many more speak out and risk death there will be no change in the Islamic world. A true martyr for civilizations cause.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:30:19 UTC | #573334

Nunbeliever's Avatar Comment 13 by Nunbeliever

I wish we could just build a large fence around these crazy muslim countries and let them live their bronze age lives in "peace" without disturbing the rest of the world. But when people with a bronze-age mentality might get their hands on modern WMD:s, that's something I'll start losing sleep over...

Unconfirmed reports say up to five other people were also wounded when Mr Taseer's other bodyguards opened fire following the attack.

Pretty lousy body guards if they manage to wound five bystanders but not the perpetrator who according to the article surrendered voluntarily after killing Taseer.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:31:10 UTC | #573335

William33's Avatar Comment 14 by William33

This must be the worst type of situations that we see from theocracies. The Pakistani's systems of politics and justice is being undermined because of the minority.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:31:21 UTC | #573336

MarkOnTheRiver's Avatar Comment 15 by MarkOnTheRiver

No doubt we'll now see the usual suspects roll out their usual lame excuses for another landmark in islam's sorry trail of death;

It was a local dispute that got out of hand. (Usually heard in the aftermath of mosque bombings.)

It was a restrained and fully understandable response to British and / or American and / or Zionist aggression. (Delete as applicable. . . or not at all in some cases)

It was the result of issues caused by the legacy of criminal Western imperialism. (Usually heard, when a hero of the religion of peace decides to share his martyrdom, with the local population of a country that might previously have had an infidel or two interfere with the stonings and amputations.)

And the number one favourite. . .

Whatever the real cause, and of course we'll never really know, it was nothing whatever to do with the teachings of the gentle religion of Islam.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:33:15 UTC | #573339

HughCaldwell's Avatar Comment 16 by HughCaldwell

Let us salute Muslims who oppose medieval barbarism.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:44:22 UTC | #573346

Radesq's Avatar Comment 17 by Radesq

@16 MarkOnTheRiver

You forgot...if you poke a sleeping Tiger you shouldn't complain when it bites.

Latest Score on repealing Blasphemy Laws: Might - 1, Right - 0

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:44:27 UTC | #573347

SoHelpMeReason's Avatar Comment 18 by SoHelpMeReason

"I was under huge pressure sure 2 cow down b4 rightist pressure on blasphemy. Refused. Even if I'm the last man standing," he wrote on Twitter on 31 December.

That's haunting.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:56:46 UTC | #573355

beanson's Avatar Comment 19 by beanson

Comment 17 by HughCaldwell

Let us salute Muslims who oppose medieval barbarism.

I don't know how many in Pakistan stand against medieval barbarianism- check out the comments from Pakistanis on BBC site- the majority say that he deserved what he got. eg:

Even moderate Muslims know that his statement on the blasphemy law wasn't appropriate.

and

He was a notorious and hated person.

also

it should be noted that any person who dares to go against general public sentiments may have to face this kind of fate.

Punjab governor shot dead: Your reaction

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:57:09 UTC | #573358

SomersetJohn's Avatar Comment 20 by SomersetJohn

When will we stop giving these stone age savages the benefits of secular advancement.

By that I mean no more tax breaks, no more modern medicine, no more TV and radio time for the parasites who push their gods. Take their international bank accounts. Make it a criminal offense to do business with them. And I don't mean just the followers of the sheep shagging desert bandit. Do the same for the jobbing carpenter and his psychotic dad. We did it for the followers of the greek mob, those viking thugs, the feathered snake from South America and many others.

Lets start with no cash aid for any country which does not adhere to the UN declaration on human rights. Notice I say cash. Sending beds, tents, food and medicine to people who need them in an emergency is fine. That's direct aid to people who need it. I'm fine with that. But no more cash without strings.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:01:01 UTC | #573362

Leuce's Avatar Comment 21 by Leuce

Salmon Taseer was moderate,

But his assassin was not an extremist muslim, if you think that Muhammad is the perfect example of how a man should act then murder is normal.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:03:51 UTC | #573364

Rodger T's Avatar Comment 22 by Rodger T

Well, he did try to interfere with the national pastime of stoning a defenseless woman to death. What else would they have to do on a saturday afternoon for entertainment?

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:07:12 UTC | #573366

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 23 by Richard Dawkins

I'm sure the 26-year-old now thinks he's some kind of brave warrior for Allah.

Yes, that is certain. What worries me more is the contemplation of how many OTHER Muslims, including in Britain, probably agree with him. Remember those polls showing the number of British Muslims who supported the fatwa against Salman Rushdie, and supported the bombers of 9/11 and 7/7, and the number of British Muslims who support the death penalty for apostasy. These are not 'extremist' Muslims, they are a substantial percentage of the total.

Richard

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:12:24 UTC | #573371

God fearing Atheist's Avatar Comment 24 by God fearing Atheist

Pakistan is fucked. Pakistan has nukes. We are all fucked.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:15:28 UTC | #573375

MarkOnTheRiver's Avatar Comment 25 by MarkOnTheRiver

Comment 18 by Radesq :

@16 MarkOnTheRiver

You forgot...if you poke a sleeping Tiger you shouldn't complain when it bites.

Another favourite indeed Radesq, but for some, alluding to "bites" lacks the necessary ambiguity needed when excusing . . . sorry. . . finding justification for, islamic. . . err. . . misunderstandings.

Latest Score on repealing Blasphemy Laws: Might - 1, Right - 0

And currently no prospect of the final whistle either.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:20:49 UTC | #573379

Agrajag's Avatar Comment 26 by Agrajag

Comment 16 by MarkOnTheRiver

No doubt we'll now see the usual suspects roll out their usual lame excuses for another landmark in islam's sorry trail of death;

Sure enough, one of the commenters (on the site referenced by beanson, Comment 20) alluding to one of your suggestions... but which one?

"Although the common perception is that Mr Taseer was assassinated for his outspoken views on the blasphemy law in Pakistan, it would be very short-sighted to assume that a lone gunman decided to execute him for this reason alone. It is much more likely that he was assassinated for more wide-scale political reasons." Nameer Rehman, Karachi, Pakistan

Comment 9 by Galactor

I just can't understand why they don't think Allah and Muhammad aren't tough enough to fight their own battles.

Nobody likes to admit that the super-being they believe controls the known universe is in fact a pansy-assed wuss. (Oh, is that blasphemy? My bad.)
Steve

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:29:11 UTC | #573387

Carl Sai Baba's Avatar Comment 27 by Carl Sai Baba

Well that answers the question, "why don't more muslims speak up and condemn _______?"

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:31:20 UTC | #573388

glenister_m's Avatar Comment 28 by glenister_m

Mental note to self: If the need ever arises, choose your own bodyguards rather than having them appointed.

I'm curious what the public's final reaction to this will be:

A) Martyrdom for victim/Counter-productive - "His own guard murdered him for what? We need to get rid of that blasphemy law!"

OR

B) Martyrdom for guard - "He did his moral duty, and all charges against him should be dropped."

Much as I would hope for A, I fear it will probably be B...

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:46:44 UTC | #573393

Ai Deng's Avatar Comment 29 by Ai Deng

Just sad, sad, sad.

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:09:47 UTC | #573399

William33's Avatar Comment 30 by William33

I wonder if security officers are the nulear bases under-go the same level of screen checks.

It is sad that this person was assassinated. However what makes it more dangerous is that it was his security that assassinated him.

How can you trust your security if they're taking shots at you?

Tue, 04 Jan 2011 20:15:27 UTC | #573401