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green and dying's Avatar Comment 1 by green and dying

So a week of pretending that the main teachings of these religions regarding other faiths are all positive and tolerant? Whatever makes them feel like they're helping, I guess.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:58:30 UTC | #577834

root2squared's Avatar Comment 2 by root2squared

I think you are inferior, a sinner, a blasphemer, will burn in hell, worship a fake god, and hence, have wrong morals and values, BUT, for one week, I will respect and love you. Aren't I great?

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:08:37 UTC | #577842

gordon's Avatar Comment 3 by gordon

Every time I hear TB speak now, I have to stop the gag reflex. After having spent a long time in the Middle East, anyone who doesn't think the place is in need of severe therapy is mad. Is it a hotbed of scientific thought? No. Is it a hotbed of cultural progression? No. Is it a hotbed of philosophy trying to understand the human condition? No. Is it progressive in its outlook for the planet as we near a tipping point? No. Is it a centre of learning? No (unless you want to stare at the same book of fairies every day and memorise a myth). The whole area is a medieval mindset in the wrong century. TB and his interfaith works are wrong because they underline religions fallacy to someone who doesn’t believe but they give the subjects of the myth more certainty. They perpetuate the myths and if you are a believer the books are fact, not fiction. The fact is that the books (take your pick) are horrible in their basic messages and none of them give succour to love and understanding of each other or our fellow beings on this planet. Why does he not go to these places and try and open up to the awe that is our universe, scientific discovery, advances in our understanding of our planet, possible ways we could all co-operate to try and ensure our species survives without turning the planet into a husk. The man makes me sick!

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:09:31 UTC | #577844

DefenderOfReason!'s Avatar Comment 4 by DefenderOfReason!

Interfaith harmony? There's no such thing.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:19:39 UTC | #577849

Imroy's Avatar Comment 5 by Imroy

Until people simply call themselves "religious" instead of "catholic", "protestant", "jew", "muslim", "sikh", etc, it is pointless to claim that religious people can simply put aside their different religions and get along together.

Almost every religion in the world is exclusionary - their very basis is the idea that its followers are worshipping the "right" god(s), and everyone else is wrong. Trying to paper over this obvious problem is apologetic nonsense.

Religion poisons everything. In this case, it poisons the ability of people to get along simply because they worship a different deity or deities.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:23:04 UTC | #577852

justaperson's Avatar Comment 6 by justaperson

How about "persons of faith" cease and desist insisting that others (especially their own children)profess to believe likewise, and just see what happens?

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:28:31 UTC | #577858

ajs261's Avatar Comment 7 by ajs261

Besides the obvious vacuousness of the article it seems like a total misdiagnosis of the problem.

Tony Blair said it himself in his debate with Hitchens. "Religion has helped in dealing with the religious conflict." Precisely. Remove the religious beliefs and there really is no reason to kill someone or start a war on the basis of faith.

And that doesn't even scratch the surface! Without baseless religious belief there's no logical reason to persecute women and homosexuals. Or enforce bizarre and catastrophic rules of condoms and stem cell research. Or butcher your daughter because she's damaged the family honour by being raped.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:38:40 UTC | #577869

Randy Ping's Avatar Comment 8 by Randy Ping

Comment 4 by DefenderOfReason! :

Interfaith harmony? There's no such thing.

Not true, they all agree that they hate atheists.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:39:55 UTC | #577870

green and dying's Avatar Comment 9 by green and dying

Comment 8 by Randy Ping :

Not true, they all agree that they hate atheists.

No, you're just thinking of the Abrahamic ones.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:42:58 UTC | #577873

Bernard Hurley's Avatar Comment 10 by Bernard Hurley

Religions are so good at encouraging good and moral behaviour among their followers that they feel the need of an World Interfaith Harmony Week.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:55:03 UTC | #577883

Neil5150's Avatar Comment 11 by Neil5150

I think many politicians come to the conclusions that you can't ignore religion, or wait for it to dissipate. So what they do is embrace it, in an attempt to manipulate its course.

Religions die on their own, the best that can be hoped for is that we can accelerate their deaths. Getting people to stop killing each other because they have different delusions, using religion its self, might not be the worst start...

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:56:49 UTC | #577884

keithapm's Avatar Comment 12 by keithapm

...and because it promotes harmonious interfaith relations in a way that specifically draws attention to the scriptural and theological basis for such relations.

Oh good! So they've all agreed to ignore the scriptural and theological basis for promoting interfaith strife have they? Good, it's about time. It'd almost make you wonder how all the nasty stuff got into those scriptures wouldn't it? Well that probably won't bother the religious now will it?

I'm all for peace, don't get me wrong, but I cannot endorse faith. Sorry but I find faith to be far too dishonest and ultimately useless in it's approach to the world to view it in any way other than with suspicion.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:01:10 UTC | #577887

Stevehill's Avatar Comment 13 by Stevehill

These people all preach that if anyone belongs to the other guy's religion, he's damned and will burn in hell forever. And as if that was not enough, if you leave your faith you maybe need to be punished in this life too. Possibly terminally.

Having spent millennia teaching their adherents to hate each other with a vengeance, starting at about age two, they decide having a group hug in the form of a World Interfaith Harmony Week will make everything alright.

These people are such deluded fools they are no longer capable of seeing what deluded fools they are.

You especially, Blair.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:05:29 UTC | #577890

Nirmankaya's Avatar Comment 14 by Nirmankaya

"...has the potential to globally turn the tide against religious tensions...".

Please! As long as Chritians think Jesus is God, Jews think they are the elect who will alone be in Paradise, and Muslims think that only Muslims will be in Paradise, then religious tensions will continue. The leaders of all these faiths are fundamentalists; this is the sad truth. The powere that these leaders wield in their respective countries is huge - I need not give examples.
The God meme has been the most destructive meme that has ever existed. However, memes, like genes, ulimately follow the rules of natural section. Let's just watch them kill each other out. I would like to thank Zarathustra greatly for inventing God and Satan, for I get to be in an age where these cancers will no longer haunt mankind.

                                                    Thus spoke Buddha.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:15:46 UTC | #577893

0penM1nded's Avatar Comment 15 by 0penM1nded

Funny comments!

Seriously though, the guy is trying to address a real issue! Do we have any better ways to address the issue, better as in positive, inclusive, constructive, improving what we already have?

I am not thinking about changing the world overnight, but how can we realistically create a safer and more tolerant world?

Now back to the fun and games :-)

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:19:56 UTC | #577896

Philoctetes                                        's Avatar Comment 16 by Philoctetes

Stop Press. Blair talking bollox.

Seriously he does not seemed to have learned anything from his debate with Hitch other than shut the fuck up, grin idiotically, place fingers in ears and carry on regardless

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:20:46 UTC | #577897

Bernard Hurley's Avatar Comment 17 by Bernard Hurley

Comment 9 by green and dying :

Comment 8 by Randy Ping :

Not true, they all agree that they hate atheists.

No, you're just thinking of the Abrahamic ones.

My ex-wife's Chinese family are mostly nominally Buddhist. To them the fact that I am an atheist is a non-issue. BTW you can get really yummy vegetarian food in some Buddhist temples.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:42:11 UTC | #577908

Art Vandelay's Avatar Comment 18 by Art Vandelay

This sooo reminds me of a Tom Lehrer song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:44:13 UTC | #577911

holysmokes's Avatar Comment 19 by holysmokes

I wonder what percentage of the religious world actually knows about this February event? I suspect its in the single digits.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:44:30 UTC | #577912

Stevehill's Avatar Comment 20 by Stevehill

@OpenM1nded

Do we have any better ways to address the issue, better as in positive, inclusive, constructive, improving what we already have?

Yes. Kill god. Philip Pullman did it in his Dark Materials trilogy, and there were several copies in the library of my local (Church of England, faith) Primary School last time I looked, a few weeks ago.

51% of Britons have no faith. We're getting there. The faithheads will end up a fringe minority (and I won't begrudge them their comforts any more than I begrudge teenage geeks playing World of Warcraft as a proxy for having a social life - it's a free country). And we'll learn to respect their rights as we do for all minorities, I hope, but their social and political influence will be close to zero.

I am extremely optimistic that this outcome is inevitable, but possibly not in my lifetime.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:44:30 UTC | #577913

mlgatheist's Avatar Comment 21 by mlgatheist

That resolution leaves most if not all non-religious people out. By changing #3 of the resolution to the following, it would be one that all good or loving people should be able to stand for.

"Encourages all governments to support, on a voluntary basis, the spread of the message of harmony and goodwill everywhere during that week, based on goodwill and the love of mankind, each according to their own traditions and/or convictions;"

There is absolutely no reason to mention biblical or koranic passages or gods in the resolution to has for harmony and goodwill. Any "devoted" theist that cannot stand behind this resolution is not a "good person" nor a "loving person".

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:45:13 UTC | #577915

kamel's Avatar Comment 22 by kamel

How can we help them?.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:52:55 UTC | #577919

Vorlund's Avatar Comment 23 by Vorlund

Interfaith harmony? FFS! Now there's a term to boggle the mind. I suppose if you believe the unbelievable you can easily delude yourself into believing this mythological beastie as well. This is no doubt the follow up act to Blair's 'religions are good notion'. It would take the selective and muddled mentality of a hocus pocus peddler to swallow it.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:11:29 UTC | #577925

The Truth, the light's Avatar Comment 24 by The Truth, the light

Comment 15 by 0penM1nded :

Funny comments!

Seriously though, the guy is trying to address a real issue! Do we have any better ways to address the issue, better as in positive, inclusive, constructive, improving what we already have?

I am not thinking about changing the world overnight, but how can we realistically create a safer and more tolerant world?

Now back to the fun and games :-)

Education is the key factor for dismantling the power and influence of religions.

There will reach a certain tipping point where religions will no longer have the automatic respect they command in most countries at present.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:17:57 UTC | #577927

yvrous's Avatar Comment 25 by yvrous

....is unique in the annals of the UN because of its explicit mention of God (albeit in a way that does not exclude those who don't ascribe to a religion) and because it promotes harmonious interfaith relations in a way that specifically draws attention to the scriptural and theological basis for such relations.

Also the UN have declared ONE day for peace (sept. 21st) because of all the terrible pain and death around the world cause by the all wars. But to declare SEVEN days for harmony between religions indicate that the UN sees a huge hellish problem with religious disharmony. Why does Mr Blair seem exalted at this condemnation by the UN.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:26:55 UTC | #577935

pekkaa's Avatar Comment 26 by pekkaa

What is more, because those who are passionate about their faith do not want to act in contradiction to it, the argument in favour of the open approach has to go wider and deeper than simply asking people to behave nicely to one another. It has to address, full-on, the spiritual, theological and scriptural basis for mutual respect towards those who follow a different religious or spiritual path.

Like studying the Bible or Koran would provide some basis for respect towards the followers of other religions. Quite the opposite, I think.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:34:01 UTC | #577938

no2rel's Avatar Comment 27 by no2rel

We have heard stories of opponents in war putting down their swords for a moment of peace or for discussion of the issues. My suggestion would be that during the interfaith week all holy books are closed and all religious ceremonies are halted. Just for one week.

Shouldn't the Mayans or Aztecs or Incas of south america have stopped ripping the hearts out of their most beautiful young people for just a day or two in hopes that the sun might still come up each morning? It was confirmed daily that the death system worked but maybe it wasn't the actual direct cause of the suns rising?

If the worlds religions tried something similar, they too might be favorably surprised. Of course the non-religious would have to keep their mouths shut about religion as well, an equally difficult task.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:49:59 UTC | #577945

AlexP's Avatar Comment 28 by AlexP

The essence of the struggle is this: are people of religious faith prepared to regard those of a different faith with respect and dignity, and yes, even love; or do they rather regard them as enemies? Are they "open" to the other or "closed"? Do they want to live in harmony with those different from themselves?

And there we go.

Isn't this the sort of question that is up to god? Isn't this the kind of thing you can't just decide for yourself? If you're actually following a religion rather than using it to coat your own definition of good and evil with a layer of divinity, if you are truly convinced that, yes, there is a god and yes, he does command us...

Wouldn't you be in a position where you can't just choose to play nice with others?

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:08:47 UTC | #577952

Agrajag's Avatar Comment 29 by Agrajag

Well, this should settle all the hubbub in Pakistan. I hope they haven't executed the poor "blaspheming" woman before then. <_<
Steve

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:12:24 UTC | #577954

Capt. Bloodeye's Avatar Comment 30 by Capt. Bloodeye

Bullshit Mister Han Man.....you come right outta comic book.

Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:17:14 UTC | #577956