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Black Skeptics' Interview with Author Donald Wright - Comments

AtheistEgbert's Avatar Comment 1 by AtheistEgbert

It is interesting that those few of us who are genuinely interested in the truth, are most likely to question authority figures and go off and examine the evidence for ourselves. Once we establish that we were taught a load of bullshit, we quickly find ourselves alienated and shunned by the those lovely people who called us brother or sister and loved us unconditionally.

So the truthseekers end up leaving the flock, leaving behind the non-seekers and their leaders whose only interest is to prevent them from finding answers themselves. It is clear that over time, the flock becomes more and more sheep like and deluded and their leaders become more powerful.

Once we're safely out of the delusion and have established reason in our heads, we find it difficult and almost impossible to reach back to our brothers and sisters in the fold, because they do not understand us, nor wish to listen.

And that is what frustrates humanist types most. Because in order to gain a chance to be heard, they must make compromise after compromise, until they do nothing but agree with believers or remain silent. This approach is simply unsatisfactory and unreasonable.

What we need to do is not waste our time in futile attempts at dialogue with people who are not motivated to seek the truth, or are deluded and revere authority, but instead build our own communities and share knowledge in an open and honest way. The larger we grow as a community, the more visible we become and the more we're heard.

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:29:08 UTC | #595685

godsbelow's Avatar Comment 2 by godsbelow

Chalk one up for Tom Paine.

Once again, we see that open-minded and well-informed Biblical study can to lead to abandonment of Christianity. But of course, that's far more reading than most people are willing to endure. Blind faith is easier, doesn't require one to tire one's eyes.

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:41:55 UTC | #595694

Ernst-Jan's Avatar Comment 3 by Ernst-Jan

Curious how it all comes down to whether you want to take the effort of actually reading something yourself or having someone do it for you. Never before have I seen the link between lazy students and believers so clearly.

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:57:20 UTC | #595708

dbmartin's Avatar Comment 4 by dbmartin

Congratulations on your freedom. Keep it real, keep it black, take the whole month. If anyone wont let you go there, call them racist theists until they acquiesce.

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:23:06 UTC | #595717

alaskansee's Avatar Comment 5 by alaskansee

@ 3 Ernst-Jan

I think it's quite common, most believers don't associate their benevolent sky daddy with the horror of the bible because they've never read it. Although they will probably all say they have - that would just make them worse.

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:53:02 UTC | #595727

robotaholic's Avatar Comment 6 by robotaholic

This is off topic but it's so amazing- look at Richard Dawkins talking in robot!

this is so good-

I love the part where Neil Tyson talks about how the cosmic background radiation is on your TV!

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:37:47 UTC | #595746

chawinwords's Avatar Comment 7 by chawinwords

One nice case of reason and intelligence winning over superstitution and ignorance. It's just that simple.

Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:56:50 UTC | #595752

jel's Avatar Comment 8 by jel

I am glad I finally decided to scholarly study the Bible.

If only more people would actually study what this book (and all the other horrible religious books) says, there would be far less people willing to follow it.

Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:29:35 UTC | #595929

Corylus's Avatar Comment 9 by Corylus

Interesting interview with an interesting man.

I had a moment of prickliness at this bit...

The most important activity for a black non-believer is to make yourself available for establishing a friendship with other black non-believers.

Surely, a humanist should be talking of transcending boundaries such as skin colour!?

[I snorted in a moment of unattractive self-righteousness.]

However, then I read this bit ...

Because of the dominance of religion in our community, it is not unusual to experience a feeling of loneliness so a local friend is invaluable.

... and cursed myself for being an insular pasty Brit who does not have to work or live in a predominantly religious environment.

Having no-one around you who holds similar views, while also looking similar to you - day in and day out - must be a deeply isolating experience.

(N.B. Physical attributes are neither intrinsically good or bad, but they do entail people who share them commonly having access to certain familiar experiences).

He is right: loneliness sucks. We are social animals, after all.

Accordingly, I am not going to get snotty on him about that one.

Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:26:23 UTC | #596214

dbmartin's Avatar Comment 10 by dbmartin already did.

Sat, 26 Feb 2011 15:34:40 UTC | #596545

sanban's Avatar Comment 11 by sanban

Is it just me, or did anyone else get the idea that this man's turning away from the church was a result of homophobia? Let's hope his subsequent embrace of rationality also results in his understanding that non-hetero sexual orientations are normal to being human, too, now he's rejected the homophobic religion that declares them an "abomination."

Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:37:50 UTC | #596574

Corylus's Avatar Comment 12 by Corylus

I admitted to prickliness, not snottiness, db.

I ration my releases :)

Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:37:47 UTC | #596714