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AtheusNor's Avatar Comment 1 by AtheusNor

What a disgrace! And all that talk about tolerance and respect for religions and world views.

Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:17:08 UTC | #601694

archdeacon pluto's Avatar Comment 2 by archdeacon pluto

Ah ! the mystery of faith .

Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:49:05 UTC | #602019

AtheistEgbert's Avatar Comment 3 by AtheistEgbert

No surprise really is it? Us atheists are by default aggressive and militant for even mentioning any criticism, whereas brimstone preachers condemn everyone who does not believe in Jesus to hell. Double standards, hypocrisy, welcome to special privilege for religion.

Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:13:28 UTC | #602119

SourTomatoSand's Avatar Comment 4 by SourTomatoSand

Simply because the Army spent money on a religious-themed event, it does not become acceptable for the Army to then spend money on an anti-religion-themed event. Pushing this atheist-themed event amounts to tacit acceptance of the evangelical event, which subsequently makes it acceptable for US military posts everywhere to spend tax money on religious festivals of any kind, from Amish to Zoroastrianist. If we do not want to piss all over the US constitution, we need to ensure that no public money is spent on religious activity. In my opinion this should include barring events like this, and it should most definitely include disbanding the Chaplaincy, which should have been killed off with Katcoff v. Marsh if that particular court of appeals hadn't had its head up its ass.

Sun, 13 Mar 2011 19:52:01 UTC | #602350

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 5 by Ignorant Amos

Comment 4 by SourTomatoSand

Simply because the Army spent money on a religious-themed event, it does not become acceptable for the Army to then spend money on an anti-religion-themed event.

Doesn't it? What is parity of esteem all about then?

Pushing this atheist-themed event amounts to tacit acceptance of the evangelical event, which subsequently makes it acceptable for US military posts everywhere to spend tax money on religious festivals of any kind, from Amish to Zoroastrianist.

Yes, that's about the thick of it. Ya just love yer freedom of expression, what?

If we do not want to piss all over the US constitution, we need to ensure that no public money is spent on religious activity.

Agreed, but unfortunately this position was pissed all over when the first event was facilitated, they drew first blood so to speak, ergo, ya reap what ya sow.

In my opinion this should include barring events like this, and it should most definitely include disbanding the Chaplaincy, which should have been killed off with Katcoff v. Marsh if that particular court of appeals hadn't had its head up its ass.

No one I think disagrees with that, but that isn't how it played out was it?

Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:33:31 UTC | #602394

SourTomatoSand's Avatar Comment 6 by SourTomatoSand

Yeah, Amos, that's about the sum of it. None of this should have happened at all, and now we're not going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle, so to speak.

As if there aren't enough wasted funds in the US military already!

Sun, 13 Mar 2011 22:43:06 UTC | #602396

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 7 by Ignorant Amos

Comment 6 by SourTomatoSand

As if there aren't enough wasted funds in the US military already!

I feel your pain, same here in the UK.

Mon, 14 Mar 2011 00:27:34 UTC | #602420

Savant's Avatar Comment 8 by Savant

@ SourTomatoSand

The suggestion that a non-theist event qualifies as a 'religious' event simply doesn't pass the smell test. This is akin to the vacuous notion that atheism is a religion or even a belief system.

Any event that reaches 'beyond belief' lands squarely in the realm of reason, as does all genuine secularism. It therefore covers the vast expanse of human thought and endeavor that is not wedged into the tiny mindset of irrational belief. To the extent that the government should spend any money on such events, such a secular event should be the only kind allowed.

Fri, 18 Mar 2011 02:36:01 UTC | #604230

Roedy's Avatar Comment 9 by Roedy

The army promotes the Christian myth that you cannot die. Those that take this myth seriously are far more willing to risk their lives for the pleasure of killing others, and have less guilt about killing others. The military authorities don't want anyone encouraging the dupes to question it.

Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:38:08 UTC | #606123

jonblackman's Avatar Comment 10 by jonblackman

I find it just incredible that this religious thing is so strong in parts of America. Has not got anything to do with money by any chance If powerful corporations can spend millions on telling us that Climate change is a falsehood then I guess that powerful religions can spend money on telling us that their falsehood is not a falsehood

Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:24:29 UTC | #606616