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Stevehill's Avatar Comment 3 by Stevehill

xxxxxx barbaric Middle Eastern goatherders...

Slightly edited - there are no expletives which can capture the sickness of this /Moderator

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:29:26 UTC | #640114

Teknical's Avatar Comment 4 by Teknical

It is no more than I have come to expect from lawyers and judges. Who the hell gave these people their power over other humans (and animals)?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:43:44 UTC | #640117

houseofcards's Avatar Comment 5 by houseofcards

This is disturbing.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:43:49 UTC | #640118

Tryphon Tournesol's Avatar Comment 6 by Tryphon Tournesol

mmm mr/mrs Woof escaped, but otherwise: poor dog, and more to the point: stupid dOGz..

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:44:40 UTC | #640119

ajs261's Avatar Comment 7 by ajs261

You have got to be kidding... how... just how can anyone take these people seriously?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:46:10 UTC | #640120

Capt. Bloodeye's Avatar Comment 8 by Capt. Bloodeye


Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:48:28 UTC | #640121

Tryphon Tournesol's Avatar Comment 9 by Tryphon Tournesol

Comment 1 by Stevehill :

Fucking barbaric Middle Eastern goatherders...

scapegoatherders you mean :(

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:49:57 UTC | #640122

God fearing Atheist's Avatar Comment 10 by God fearing Atheist

I call Poe.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:50:15 UTC | #640123

HardNosedSkeptic's Avatar Comment 11 by HardNosedSkeptic

Religious people sometimes accuse atheists of making religion look ridiculous. This story proves that religion doesn’t need any help from us to look ridiculous.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:58:22 UTC | #640126

Daniela 's Avatar Comment 12 by Daniela

"One of the judges at the court in the city's ultra-Orthodox Mea Shearim neighbourhood had reportedly asked local children to carry out the sentence."

I really hope they don't but after reading this story anything is possible.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:01:33 UTC | #640128

debonnesnouvelles's Avatar Comment 13 by debonnesnouvelles

Is it a joke? Please someone find out for us that this story is a joke! Because if it isn't, what, who, where, why??????? It is wrong on so many levels. First, a "Jewish rabbinical court", should such a thing exist? This story seems to indicate that it should not. Why would a poor stray dog have anything to do with any spirits of dead people, which do not exist? Why does the fear of a judge suffice to base a verdict on? Why on earth did 20 years ago judges bid the spirit of a deceased lawyer to enter a dog's body? Why did they want to get children to carry out the sentence???? That is so f... u.. Good for the dog if it got out in time. Really, how barbaric.

What I am stupefied by is the sentence to death by stoning in the context of Judaism. Surely, that is not practiced nowadays, is it?

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:06:02 UTC | #640129

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 14 by Richard Dawkins

You think this story is ridiculous? Read the Gospel according to Mark, Chapter 5:

And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes. And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit, Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains: Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him. And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.

For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.

Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.

And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid. And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine. And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:11:22 UTC | #640131

debonnesnouvelles's Avatar Comment 15 by debonnesnouvelles

... and how is it possible for theses judges not to realize how ridiculously pompous they are ...

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:12:19 UTC | #640133

Tryphon Tournesol's Avatar Comment 16 by Tryphon Tournesol

Comment 11 by debonnesnouvelles :

What I am stupefied by is the sentence to death by stoning in the context of Judaism. Surely, that is not practiced nowadays, is it?

Nooooooo!!!no no no!!! no religous mindset will ever lead to anything like that...god is great, jezus is love & islam is a religion of peace. (and thor never had anything to do with it in the first place)

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:12:34 UTC | #640134

Metamag's Avatar Comment 17 by Metamag

Please someone tell me that this is a hoax...

OK, I know that there were rabbis recently praying and blowing ceremonial horns in a plane to ward off swine flu but still....

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:27:13 UTC | #640138

Stevehill's Avatar Comment 18 by Stevehill

Needless to say, any criticism of this bollocks will be interpreted as anti-semitic and an attempt to delegitimise Israel...

The fact that they make themselves look ridiculous six times before breakfast every day is of course subject to statutory immunity.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:34:28 UTC | #640140

Chris Roberts's Avatar Comment 19 by Chris Roberts

          Comment 12 by  [Richard Dawkins

You think this story is ridiculous? Read the Gospel according to Mark, Chapter 5:

I think they are nearly all ridiculous stories. Many of the preceeding books arn't much better, and it rapidly goes downhill afterwards as well....

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:46:50 UTC | #640145

Tryphon Tournesol's Avatar Comment 20 by Tryphon Tournesol

...if the dog is caught (again), isn't there anything that can be done to make everything allright? make it say 100 hail mary's or sieg heil's, have him (please not her, I tend to see that as worse) circumcised or denied food for one day? I mean, there must be a rational solution..the kind al HUMANS agree on

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:47:08 UTC | #640146

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 21 by Richard Dawkins

OK, I know that there were rabbis recently praying and blowing ceremonial horns in a plane to ward off swine flu but still....

In case people have forgotten this hilarious occasion (Monty Python couldn't have done it better), here it is again.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:47:10 UTC | #640147

Dirty Kuffar's Avatar Comment 22 by Dirty Kuffar

A secular dog that insults religious judges ? - sounds like my kind of hound !

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:49:57 UTC | #640149

hemidemisemigod's Avatar Comment 23 by hemidemisemigod

Israel doesn't have a jury system so there's no way this poor dog could have a fair trial by its peers.

How can they prove it didn't have a bono fido reason for entering the court? Who will guard against the prosecution trying to lead the witness?

It's scary that a nuclear power operates a legal system that still believes in witchcraft.

So help me Dog.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:56:35 UTC | #640154

ZenDruid's Avatar Comment 24 by ZenDruid

I only wish I knew enough Yiddish to express myself honestly. Expressive language, Yiddish.

There's certainly someone in that courthouse who is in need of a short leash and spanking, and I'm not thinking about that poor dog.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:00:28 UTC | #640155

Sample's Avatar Comment 25 by Sample

I face-booked this. I'll be curious how many clients drop my page! Great way to cull morons. The other vile part of this story was that the rabbi wanted local children to kill the dog.

There is a proven link between animal violence and later domestic violence. I have little hesitation when I say that there's a good chance that the women in that religious group are beaten as well.

Despicable people.


Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:02:36 UTC | #640157

huzonfurst's Avatar Comment 26 by huzonfurst

"Oh Lord, ooh you are so very big, gosh we're all really impressed down here, I can tell you..." and the rest of history follows.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:03:51 UTC | #640160

ridelo's Avatar Comment 27 by ridelo

The really disturbing thing is that these men are judges over other men. It's like putting together a jury from the inmates of a lunatic asylum.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:05:07 UTC | #640161

Tony d's Avatar Comment 28 by Tony d

Not only were these Rabbis loony enough to pass sentence on a dog they were to cowardly to carry out the sentence themselves. So fearful of the dog /evil spirit were they that they tried to get kids to stone the mutt.What a bunch of wankers.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:11:54 UTC | #640163

josh.lawson's Avatar Comment 29 by josh.lawson

Huh. Weird. Brave dog sacrificed himself as an act of attrition before the supernatural psychos. What's next? A cat inhabited by the spirit of Haysuess? Well, there goes the second coming all the rapture folks are waiting for.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:27:46 UTC | #640166

Pulkit's Avatar Comment 30 by Pulkit

What a bunch of crockshit ! These fucktard lunatics never cease to amaze me. Seriously, if I could, I would personally murder that judge. You imbecile moronic rabbis, prophets, imams and all the other perverse loonies that dog is infinitely more sensible and moral than you assholes will ever be. Such stories enrage me beyond my normal capacity. They've got this excuse named God and they can do anything. Wake up bastards, it's 21st century, stop living in the Bronze Age.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:32:48 UTC | #640169

debonnesnouvelles's Avatar Comment 31 by debonnesnouvelles

Comment 14 by Tryphon Tournesol :

Nooooooo!!!no no no!!! no religous mindset will ever lead to anything like that...god is great, jezus is love & islam is a religion of peace. (and thor never had anything to do with it in the first place)

My question was more like "when was the last time, in the 21 century, that anyone on this forum heard of a death sentence executed by stoning in Israel?" Or maybe I just miss all the news...

Great story about the rabbis chanting prayers and blowing horns mid-air! Again pompous and ridiculous springs to mind.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:36:31 UTC | #640170

RevoltFuture's Avatar Comment 32 by RevoltFuture

Yet, even with all the instances of equal or of greater horrendous intent, we still cannot overthrow religion. Religion must remain unscathed through senseless murder, molestation, fraud, embezzlement, psychological wounding of children and the list of extreme ignorance goes on. Decrepit in its very essence, Religion has made it through due to lack of true spirituality and intelligence on our poisoned planet. We are fed food that is bad for us and even the food that we are taught is good for us is grown/farmed in unhealthy manner leaving us stuck and dying. Lack of proper food/water in this "project dumbdown" of sorts is a contributor to lack of reason/intelligence within the human population. Population control is in effect and has been for a long time, we are undoubtedly growing more wise to our so called "leaders" but I feel the masses are still looking to their "holy book" for answers. I applaud Richard Dawkins and his colleagues that are straight forward and tough in their stance of a religion free world and I hope one day I am not bombarded by the "freedom of religion" BS. Freedom of thoughts and ideas are a human right for sure but when a thought or idea, that won't ever be proven due to fallacy and hurts so many, is not looked at with deep deniability on a global scale, then we have a serious problem or conflict within the Human rights moral law. Because legal systems around the world are lead by religious influence and bibles are present in all courtrooms, we are forced in a sense to oblige religion due to our obligation to the law. A major change is on its way, enlightenment, which we so desperately need as ideas of a better future are widespread. I just hope for a day when people listen to the cry's of the people instead of government or fraudulent institutions. The Venus Project lead by Jauque Fresco is one way that should be considered and any ideas that create betterment for society should be researched and implemented.

~RevoltFuture - Because we have to.

Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:37:36 UTC | #640171