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Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 1 by Neodarwinian

Don Murleone? Looks like it.

Signed.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:09:55 UTC | #849032

Peter Watkinson's Avatar Comment 2 by Peter Watkinson

Signed.

Peter

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:20:11 UTC | #849036

gordon's Avatar Comment 3 by gordon

Already in there

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:21:56 UTC | #849037

danconquer's Avatar Comment 4 by danconquer

It has been reported in the last couple of hours that the ruling Conservative government is going to back the Labour opposition motion in Parliament tomorrow calling on Murdoch to withdraw his takeover plans for BSkyB. For any government to actually support an opposition motion is an extremely exceptional and rare event and the strongest possible sign yet that Murdoch's bid could well be dead in the water. It is not inconcievable that the takeover still go through, but if elected MP's vote overwhelmingly and across benches against, then it would require the most blatantly reckless and high-risk offensive by News Corp to override such a clearly expressed will of Parliament.

The balance has tilted quite decisively against Murdoch during the last week in a way that would have been unthinkable only a month ago. Nonetheless, despite the consensus which is likely to emerge tomorrow, it remains vital that the public keep up the pressure.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:24:00 UTC | #849038

AtheistEgbert's Avatar Comment 5 by AtheistEgbert

Let's face reality--the signatures did not have the required effect, and Murdoch is as powerful as ever.

Corruption does not spring only from a single man, but it's endemic in our society. It's what ultimately will bring down all forms of power, not the false belief of power from the people.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:26:15 UTC | #849039

dragonclarke's Avatar Comment 6 by dragonclarke

Comment 5 by AtheistEgbert :

Let's face reality--the signatures did not have the required effect, and Murdoch is as powerful as ever.

Corruption does not spring only from a single man, but it's endemic in our society. It's what ultimately will bring down all forms of power, not the false belief of power from the people.

Thanks for the heads-up, Egbert.

Now where's the 'unsign' button?

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:37:33 UTC | #849040

inquisador's Avatar Comment 7 by inquisador

If Murdoch is to be deemed unfit to own and run BSkyB then how can he be considered fit to run his operation as it now stands?

Either he is fit to take the prize or else he should not even be in the business at all.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:43:46 UTC | #849044

danconquer's Avatar Comment 8 by danconquer

Comment 5 by AtheistEgbert :

Let's face reality--the signatures did not have the required effect, and Murdoch is as powerful as ever.

Eh? The last petition was calling for the bid to be referred to the Competition Commission and for a full public inquiry. Both those demands have now been met. MP's from every party have been queuing up to publicly denounce a man they previously sucked up to, the whole News International brand in the UK is fast becoming toxic, a takeover which looked like a done deal only a month ago now hangs in the balance... And yet you insist he's as "powerful as ever"! Nobody is saying he is now powerless. But his political capital is considerably, unquestionably diminished compared to only a week ago.

Corruption does not spring only from a single man, but it's endemic in our society. It's what ultimately will bring down all forms of power, not the false belief of power from the people.

This is hopelessly romantic nonsense. There is no immutable guaranteed law of nature that insists the corrupt will necessarily bring themselves down. Without exposure and scrutiny, the corrupt can and will continue quite merrily indefinitely. We all know that corruption is not confined to one individual, so why mention it?

The logical conclusion of your argument that corruption somehow automatically brings about it's own end is that a society therefore need not do anything at all to tackle corruption! It will simply deal with itself by some magical, unexplained process! Well if you want to see what a 'do nothing' approach looks like, then look at a country like India. The UK is far from perfect, but the benefits of doing something to tackle corruption as opposed to nothing are so obvious, so clear to see all over the world, that your argument looks rather surreal, frankly.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:50:38 UTC | #849047

Fergo's Avatar Comment 9 by Fergo

since the petition is growing by about 100 signatures every few minutes, i think you will easily get to the 100k mark. :)

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:01:55 UTC | #849052

vincedeporter's Avatar Comment 10 by vincedeporter

Done!

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:09:40 UTC | #849058

Steve Hanson's Avatar Comment 11 by Steve Hanson

As an American, I have no say in British manners. However, last I knew, the Obama administration was looking to see if he violated any U.S. laws in his actions over there. Hell, I'd love to see Fox News having been caught in the same crap too!

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:23:38 UTC | #849066

Atheist Mike's Avatar Comment 12 by Atheist Mike

Well if the Murdoch empire ever falls it'll certainly be a good thing but we won't be rid of all stupid and dogmatic medias. As someone once said, freedom requires eternal vigilance. Good thing if we get rid of Murdoch's propaganda machine though, signed!

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:20:56 UTC | #849086

Corylus's Avatar Comment 13 by Corylus

A pleasure.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:21:10 UTC | #849087

rod-the-farmer's Avatar Comment 14 by rod-the-farmer

Me too.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:02:10 UTC | #849099

bhoytony's Avatar Comment 15 by bhoytony

Just watched the number of people signing it go up by 600 in about five minutes. I think there will be far, far more than 100,000 at this rate. It's on 62,000 now.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:24:24 UTC | #849105

Rodger T's Avatar Comment 16 by Rodger T

Sign early and sign often.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:05:11 UTC | #849117

Anonymous's Avatar Comment 17 by Anonymous

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Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:12:11 UTC | #849118

God fearing Atheist's Avatar Comment 18 by God fearing Atheist

I e-mailed my MP.

I'm not sure of the value of these petitions - too much chance of fake names etc. If my MP wants to validate me, he can e-mail me back and I will introduce myself to him at his constituency office.

It's easy enough to get your MP's e-mail.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:19:16 UTC | #849121

God fearing Atheist's Avatar Comment 19 by God fearing Atheist

Comment 16 by Rodger T :

Sign early and sign often.

Um, err, what was I saying ...

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:20:36 UTC | #849122

gwolf's Avatar Comment 20 by gwolf

We need something like this on our side of the pond too. In the US, Murdoch controls tabloids, regular newspapers, The Wall Street Journal, the Fox Television Network, home of Fox News. The latter is a sewer outlet of right wing political and Christian propaganda. At the moment it is the most popular "news channel" in the United States. It's run by Roger Ailes and he does it shamelessly, He learned his craft under Richard Nixon, and later worked for Ronald Reagan and the first George Bush. Watching Fox News is like watching a weird alternate reality in which all evil in the world comes from Democrats, Obama and "godless atheists."

If you want to know what Murdoch plans to do to you in the UK if he gets hold of Sky, watch some of the Fox stuff you can find on the web, notably Fox's Bill O'Reilly skirmishes with Richard Dawkins and some "interviews" (actually hectoring) of Annie Laurie Gaylor of the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Fox News propaganda brought on the current national debt stalemate between the Congressional Republicans and President Obama which threatens the US' credit rating. Because of the Fox-promoted Tea Party, Republican politicians fear even looking like they might compromise with the Democrats over such things as properly taxing wealthy incomes.

I recommend reading this [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_corporation]Wikipedia Article[/url] to see just how much this fetid octopus has grown. You'll see listings all over the world!

Thanks for Reading.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:26:50 UTC | #849135

Blackaddera's Avatar Comment 21 by Blackaddera

gladly signed, this monster has to be brought to his knees

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:29:09 UTC | #849137

Anonymous's Avatar Comment 22 by Anonymous

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Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:03:40 UTC | #849143

AtheistEgbert's Avatar Comment 23 by AtheistEgbert

Comment 22 by Nunbeliever :

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Seriously. Do you not see what you're writing here? That a group of people don't deserve to live and should be exterminated. Do you not see how crazy this is?

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:23:00 UTC | #849146

Atheist Mike's Avatar Comment 24 by Atheist Mike

@comment 22

With that reasoning we could find ourselves killing half the american population and most muslims too. Sure Murdoch is a stupid and arrogant Australian cowboy but he's not 'evil' and surely enough doesn't deserve death. His view of the world is skewed that's all. I think avaaz is a great way to get things into action but they should work on their demonization tactics, or rather stop using them, it's just silly.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:23:35 UTC | #849147

Zalvation's Avatar Comment 25 by Zalvation

Signed and posted to Facebook ...

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:29:14 UTC | #849148

I.Kant's Avatar Comment 26 by I.Kant

Does anyone here think that Murdoch has made any beneficial contribution to the British media over the last 40 years?

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:29:23 UTC | #849149

holysmokes's Avatar Comment 27 by holysmokes

Errrr, what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:38:19 UTC | #849151

erindorothy's Avatar Comment 28 by erindorothy

Signed.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:43:40 UTC | #849153

I.Kant's Avatar Comment 29 by I.Kant

Comment 22 by Nunbeliever :

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A tirade of hate. Not very nice.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:52:39 UTC | #849157

Saganic Rites's Avatar Comment 30 by Saganic Rites

re #22;

Are you really comparing Murdoch to Hitler and Stalin? C'mon, get a grip man. He's nothing more or less than a very ruthless, end-justifies-the-means-type business-man who's built himself an empire by exploiting his 'qualities' to the full. He may well be a nasty piece of work; his politics and policies may be abhorrent to most of us; but when I see this...

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...well, replace 'Murdoch' with 'The Jew' and I could be reading a speech by one of the very men that you liken Murdoch to.

Scupper his plans by all means, oppose him at every opportunity, even prosecute him if there is evidence to support a prosecution, but don't start calling for the extermination of him and his family.

Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:54:08 UTC | #849158