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Chris Roberts's Avatar Comment 1 by Chris Roberts

Ha ha. Bunch of hateful loonies.

If they wern't hiding behind their religion they'd outcast from society as sociopathic monsters. Funny how the shroud of Jesus makes such behaviour acceptable.

  • edit - just how far away are comments like these from becoming another Norwegian tragedy? *
  • Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:27:36 UTC | #855880

    All About Meme's Avatar Comment 2 by All About Meme

    Clearly these people were created in the image of a loving and personal God.

    Nice work, theists.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:28:57 UTC | #855881

    gordon's Avatar Comment 3 by gordon

    I hate them too. Who?

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:40:08 UTC | #855882

    TerryL's Avatar Comment 4 by TerryL

    Atheism is a direct threat to these people's mental well-being. Without some crazy belief that they, theists, will live beyond this existence, religionists have no hope or reason to live a decent and fulfilling life on this planet.

    It is a sad commentary on what people are taught in the very formative years of human life, that time from birth to age 10 or 12.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:45:06 UTC | #855885

    Eric G's Avatar Comment 5 by Eric G

    Keep it classy faux news fans

    If their god was real, perhaps he could have taken over the controls of those planes and not have let them crash into the twin towers. It doesn't make sense to honor something that allowed the painful deaths of thousands.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:56:38 UTC | #855890

    TheAtheistBiker's Avatar Comment 6 by TheAtheistBiker

    This is an epic and universal facepalm moment...

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:03:52 UTC | #855892

    sundiver's Avatar Comment 7 by sundiver

    As the article said, where ARE those loving, kind xtians, who so despise those radicals? Why are they not standing beside us, declaring their opposition to such hateful rhetoric? Oh, maybe Phil Ochs hit the nail on the over 40 years ago when he observed "it doesn't really interest anybody outside of a small circle of friends". So, I put this challenge to all those loving, kind xtians: SPEAK OUT!! If you so despise such hate-filled speach make yourselves heard! Otherwise, after the haters get us, they'll get you, or have ya'll forgotten pastor Niemoller's epigram...

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:16:48 UTC | #855897

    JCott24's Avatar Comment 8 by JCott24

    I think this proves that morals, in fact, do not stem from religion.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:30:38 UTC | #855902

    Muldanian's Avatar Comment 9 by Muldanian

    I wonder what that peaceful Jewish carpenter would think of the people who claim to follow his teachings. Religion is the reason and the excuse for so much hatred in the world. Whether Islamic fundamentalists of Christian evangelicals, there seems to be so much anger caused by their beliefs. This cannot be good for the health of such believers. To spend their lives hating can only be bad for both their mental and physical health. I therefore cannot see why religion would have any evolutionary benefit. The peace that a world without religion would create can only ever be a dream whilst there are so many haters for Christ or Mohammed in the world. Atheists must resist the temptation to hate back though, thus maintaining the moral high ground. Maybe atheists should take a leaf out of Christ's book, by turning the other cheek, because it is obvious that Christians cannot bring themselves to accept his teachings. Why they should therefore feel the need to use his name as a reason for their bigoted hatred makes little sense to me.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:37:25 UTC | #855906

    AtheistEgbert's Avatar Comment 10 by AtheistEgbert

    I don't know, these are internet comments ffs. We all know how many trolls and idiots there are out there, this is not good evidence of anything other than people hiding behind their PC. I do not believe these comments are reflective of all Christians, any more than hateful and idiotic comments by atheists reflect all atheists which are routinely deleted off blogs and websites.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:52:10 UTC | #855908

    Premiseless's Avatar Comment 11 by Premiseless

    I always thought Jesus commanded his disciples not to fight by the sword but these christians are using the get out clause that god had not informed him guns were going to be invented so it's ok to desire to use them. I always thought the message of this faith was to be prepared to die on a cross rather than defend oneself or use arms/violence? It's a very nasty psychology in how it messes with the head and emotions to the point where its unfortunate followers are festering anger and vengeance about something which does not exist - especially when it is pointed out to them. Not seeing it to be fiction is why their mind and feelings are furious and aggravated - nay ensnared and trapped since they have no clue how to escape it anytime soon and likely think it to be absolute reality beyond all analysis. Defenders of a fiction are thus dangerous in many respects since no amount of reason can directly access the stage of someones imprinted imagination. If delusion is mental illness religion is filled with it and most are unconscious of the fact to an extent they see the opposite to be the case.

    P.S. A.Egbert is perhaps correct in suggesting trolls may be at large, though much of the above still applies.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:52:30 UTC | #855909

    strangebrew's Avatar Comment 12 by strangebrew

    Not a shock...just a confirmation that fundy xians are by and large cowardly sociopaths that require a sky daddy to tell them their bigotry and hatreds are A OK! Or, and far more likely, they can twist , distort and, if pushed, invent biblical interpretations to suit their latest hysterics or tickle their latest intolerant and incoherent brain fart.

    What is more telling ios that the so-called moderate jeebus droolers say and do correction and no backbone to stand up to them. Just tacit approval then?...maybe all xians are so is a possibility?

    These bozos are simply expressing in the comments their pant pissing deep down fear that their fairy story is unraveling faster then it can be stuck together with theological sticking plaster, so they concoct ever more barking scenarios to hide their insanities behind and the lies flow like wine...cos after-all they are lying for jeebus! It seems their pastors, the priesthood or ju ju men of their choice are not doing a very good job of explaining xianity as a religion of 'lurve'! In fact their instruction is plainly on the retarded side, not even piss poor lessons just lamentable claptrap. What an atrocious and shameful indictment of xian spiritual leadership...there is obviously none at all!

    When such a crowd of mentally challenged dimwits express such hysterical hatred...then you know that they are losing the 'debate' by the fact that they know they are losing that debate and their rage blossoms ugly into such bitter and vicious daydreams of which they are not shy of boasting thereof!,

    You would also be forgiven for concluding that 'the burnin tymes' were not an embarrassing quirk of circumstance by well meaning god fearing ancestors,never to be repeated again, but is an ever present recognizable symptom of the underlying sadistic and psychopathic nature of xian fundamentalists. Given the opportunity they would gladly burn a few 'heretics' again, that is clear as a crystal cathedral!

    Disgusting slime are a carbuncle on the ass of civilization and an insult to respectable slime everywhere.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:01:55 UTC | #855911

    silentbutler's Avatar Comment 13 by silentbutler

    Love the fire arm association; a God given right, in a country founded by God, that wouldn't exist were it not for that God given right, a good Christian God.

    I know that there are (and perhaps the majority) Christians simply just shaking thier heads, just (only) wondering what to do about "all that atheist nonsense", but those passive turn shoulders would still rather do away with those that don't see things thier way. If not through conversion, then what?

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:22:21 UTC | #855921

    MostlyHarmless's Avatar Comment 14 by MostlyHarmless

    On Reddit yesterday someone claiming to be the Georgia State Director for American Atheists said he has notified the FBI and Homeland Security about this.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:28:37 UTC | #855922

    bendigeidfran's Avatar Comment 15 by bendigeidfran

    Comment 14 by MostlyHarmless

    If you get a text death threat you've just annoyed them. If you get emails from them crying and begging for you to help them you've done a bit better. But all just fish in a barrel and a base pastime. Lots better to do. Perhaps tomorrow.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 19:55:36 UTC | #855926

    Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 16 by Neodarwinian

    As I have said before, this struggle will come to the sword and these wackaloons will initiate it. Better to be prepared than thinking that reason always will win out.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:20:39 UTC | #855931

    ZenDruid's Avatar Comment 17 by ZenDruid

    This belongs on FSTDT, not here, unless we want hysteria to win the day.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:26:21 UTC | #855933

    JS1685's Avatar Comment 18 by JS1685

    Comment 10, Egbert

    They're not hiding behind their PCs, relying on internet anonymity to mitigate the virulence of their postings. They're posting under their real names. And these posts don't seem to me to be meant in any kind of sarcastic, jokey, "I don't really mean this, you understand, wink, wink" way. They seem pretty straightforward. This is scary. Let's not downplay it.

    Xian morals and values my ass!

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:51:06 UTC | #855935

    rodan's Avatar Comment 19 by rodan

    I feel sorry and embarrassed by the hateful rhetoric posted by these Christians (?) or, at least, believers in God. Such responses run counter to what Christ taught in the New Covenant.

    Why the discrepancy? Because they/we have the capacity to corrupt even our own faith, at times, when expedient or in the heat of the moment. Viewpoints, feelings and emotions are one thing; how one chooses to act them out is the issue. These are choices made; there are no excuses.

    All the best!

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:54:36 UTC | #855936

    Ani Sharmin's Avatar Comment 20 by Ani Sharmin

    While this makes me a little angry, it mostly just makes me sad.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:57:19 UTC | #855937

    ceefan's Avatar Comment 21 by ceefan

    Interesting that you bring up the concept of love. Scientifically speaking, how old is love? 10,000 years? A million? A billion? 4.6 billion? Was the universe full of the concept of love when it went "Boom, Boom"? Does science consider the formation of the universe as a loving or hateful event? Did love develop at the universe's "conception" or in the "third tri-mester"? Does love make the world go round?
    Are the lower primates more loving than Democrats? Republicans? Communists? Athiests? Has science discovered the exact source of love? Does it come from water? Rocks? WalMart? Exactly what is the size of love? A square foot? A mile? Is it everlasting? Is it unconditional?

    Science needs to devote much more time and effort to find out the exact dimensions of love. It will certainly raise scientists' esteem with the general public, especiallly after the global warming scandal that has tarnished so many reputations. Maybe all these fellows need is more love.

    But I guess this accomplishment will never occur. Sad. After all, love can't be measured by the five senses, can it? So why do some scientists believe in this strange concept? Do some of you guys actually get married? Not very logical. Mr. Spock would never make that mistake.

    By the way, the previous writers of this thread obviously forgot to read the posting rules. Kind of a little "flamey" if you ask me. Seems to be a lack of love involved. Perhaps, scientifically speaking, a pill can be developed in this regard. There certainly is a market for it on your website.

    I'm also interested to know that this website is now seen in Turkey. Hope your life insurance is paid up. Because once that world-famous group known for their love, the Muslims, read the opinions on this site, you'll find out first hand how their comments and actions differ from Christians'.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:20:14 UTC | #855945

    Stevehill's Avatar Comment 22 by Stevehill

    I love all Christians. It's not their fault they've been indoctrinated into a mad cult.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:28:58 UTC | #855946

    jel's Avatar Comment 23 by jel

    Ahh, the religion of love strikes again. Love thy neighbour, turn the other cheek? Funny how quickly they forget.

    As for the followers of the religion of peace, why should we fear them, they're so peaceful!

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:29:31 UTC | #855947

    Mr DArcy's Avatar Comment 24 by Mr DArcy

    400 years ago these characters would have happily have lit the fire underneath you, whilst the mainly disapproving majority would have been fascinated and muttered to themselves: "well I suppose they had it coming."

    So called "moderate" Christians in the USA, would rather have hellfire and brimstone than reason. Living in England I laugh at this pathetic attitude. It's as if their omnipotent, omniscient and omniverous God hadn't got the power to defend Himself against a few words of non-believers, therefore puny humans have to do it for Him!

    I suppose the "free market" approach to religion in the USA has had to market itself more aggressively than in places like England, where the CoE is the established church and is closely connected with royalty and the government. But, like the RCC in other parts of Europe, the CoE is experiencing the faithful voting with their feet, i.e. out of the door.

    At least it appears that Fox News is editing out the more hateful comments in the reply column, just as the mods do here. But it still seems there plenty who would willingly light the fire! (Only a metaphor! Winchester, Smith & Wesson will do just fine.)

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:30:07 UTC | #855948

    skiles1's Avatar Comment 25 by skiles1

    The only thing I will comment, is that has been guilty of dishonest and bad reporting in the past, and didn't make make any improvements in wake of such offenses. It's sort of a read-at-your-peril news source. So, naturally, I refuse to read their articles. I'll wait until the story appears elsewhere.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:49:59 UTC | #855956

    Cartomancer's Avatar Comment 26 by Cartomancer

    I suspect this has been facilitated by the fact that the forum we are talking about here is on the internet. The internet has a very strange effect on lots of people. I have felt it myself on occasion. It makes people touchy and confrontational and argumentative. There is an unreal quality to it too - like anything you cast into the ether of the web isn't quite a real sentiment, and you can say anything you like without consequence. A lot of it, I think, has to do with the fact it's an entirely written form of communication where the participants are largely anonymous and don't have any non-verbal cues to guage social proprieties with. Add to this the immediate and throwaway nature of the medium (we did not get this with exchanges of letters, which take time to write and cost money to post) and we have a very real danger that otherwise sane people act highly autistically, and borderline derranged people like the ones cited in the article act like psychipathic loons.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 21:51:12 UTC | #855957

    Steve Zara's Avatar Comment 27 by Steve Zara

    Comment 26 by Cartomancer

    It makes people touchy and confrontational and argumentative.

    It can also act like a magnet for idiots. Something is put up on youtube or somewhere. There may be 10,000 views, but some idiots post dumb and offensive comments. Those idiots are then taken as representative of all those who hold opposing views. Then some counterbalancing video is put up, and equally hateful posts appear. Given the size of the internet, this is precisely what we should expect to happen.

    This is no better than radio phone-in shows. The people who phone in and comment aren't representative of anyone other than a tiny minority of people who feel like phoning radio shows.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:02:46 UTC | #855962

    DCTenner's Avatar Comment 28 by DCTenner

    One day a religious lunatic will walk into a summer camp to shoot dozens of children, dressed as a police man. Oh wait.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:04:08 UTC | #855963

    ras52's Avatar Comment 29 by ras52

    Most of these people are not anonymous, and are presumably posting from completely traceable Facebook accounts. Facebook is incorporated in Santa Clare county, California. I assume it is illegal to make threatening comments of this nature in California. So are these comments being reported to the police or other relevant authorities? It's no good assuming that Fox News will report it.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:21:02 UTC | #855971

    jameshogg's Avatar Comment 30 by jameshogg

    Well I'm wondering aloud. WHERE ARE YOU?


    I would be the first, before anyone else, to support a secular believer who keeps his beliefs private, and advocates the notion that everyone has the right to be treated equally with the same dignity and respect as each other. No, I would support such a person with utmost passion. "Secular believers". Just imagine if such a movement was started, and got big amongst the light believers. They are the ones who could very well swing civilisation towards the freedom it desperately needs, ironically enough.

    Also, such a person has the right to know that disagreements about his belief system does not mean that a) he is immoral (it is impossible to be immoral when the beliefs and practices are kept private) and b) that any lack of intelligence or delusion is deserving of a social outcasting. Every single one of us has had and will continue to make mistakes, and has been and will continue to be ignorant of at least a few topics, pardoning the euphemism of "at least a few". Most of us here know what the definition of an educated person is. Some can be guilty of fantasizing about the utopian alternative. I will not have it said that one's level of education or private beliefs (I repeat: private beliefs) ought to be a determining factor when I form relationships of any kind. That's the same mentality that comes from the rich-and-proud, egotistical, unfortunately fortunate folk who look down with "pity" on the poor common folk, laughing and wondering why they just do not try harder. I will not be talked to like that.

    It is by no means a compromise, or a bending over backwards to yell and scream with incredible sincerity that everyone is entitled to believe in what they want. To say otherwise would have to put one in the uniform of an officer and equip one with a mind reading device. What some believers can forget is that this fundamental freedom applies to everyone, including those who do not wish to share the same ideology. The same goes with all our other rights: the right to not be discriminated against, the right to keep our private lives as just that - fucking private, the right to not be judged morally until our physical actions warrant it, the right to freedom of speech and expression (Muslims take note: we'll start taking you seriously whenever you talk of a women's "freedom" to wear a Burka 24/7 when you start to take seriously the freedom to draw a simple cartoon on an A4 sheet of paper).

    If you haven't already, ladies and gentlemen of the world, I hope you take the time to understand the definition of the expression "freedom for all".

    To put it another way, there are really only two possibilities. Either most Christians really are hateful and vicious towards atheists, or most Christians are silent when they should be shouting at the top of their lungs, denouncing these evil people and voting with their feet against anything that would further divide this country.

    You have to be careful here: just because one is silent does not mean one automatically belongs in the hateful bunch. It would be unjust and baseless to assume otherwise, and most definitely another form of prejudice. It would be like saying that a person is automatically a homophobe on the sole basis that he has not (yet?) said anything about homosexuality recently. If no evidence that details his opinions has been laid down, no judgement can be made. Guilty until proven innocent would not be a wise point of view.

    I am glad that at least Fox is not biased enough to leave these comments up, and taking them down as much as they can. And before the faithful can claim that their freedom of expression is being stifled more than ours, it is Fox's own property and they have the right to put up whatever they want. You have all got your own pages where you can express your opinions.

    Prejudice is a nasty, nasty problem humanity has. House was right: humanity is overrated.

    Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:26:42 UTC | #855974