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Stevehill's Avatar Comment 1 by Stevehill

Words like "accessory after the fact" come to mind. The American heartlands are not renowned for being soft on crime or in sentencing. I hope he goes down for a very long time.

He will no doubt, following the case of the successful prosecution and imprisonment of a French bishop in similar circumstances, be able to console himself with a congratulatory letter from the Vatican praising him for not grassing up a fellow priest. They probably think he's a martyr already.

Meanwhile, when is the Vatican going to instruct "Cardinal" Bernard Law to return to face the Boston Grand Jury about his alleged complicity in covering up the many abuses by priests in his diocese?

I really do not care how many of these bastards end up in jail. The only acceptable answer is "all of the guilty ones".

And that probably includes Ratzinger.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:23:26 UTC | #881397

Daniel Williams's Avatar Comment 2 by Daniel Williams

There's no probably about it. He deserves to stand trial for the cove up the he is responsible for.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 08:33:13 UTC | #881402

sunbeamforjeebus's Avatar Comment 3 by sunbeamforjeebus

A huge step in the right direction!

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:18:05 UTC | #881418

The Truth, the light's Avatar Comment 4 by The Truth, the light

The bishop signaled he would fight the charges with all his strength. He said in a statement: “We will meet these announcements with a steady resolve and a vigorous defense.”

I wonder what on earth they could come up as a reasonable defence.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 09:48:23 UTC | #881421

SomersetJohn's Avatar Comment 5 by SomersetJohn

“We will meet these announcements with a steady resolve and a vigorous defense.”

Does using the rhetoric of Kim Jong Ill give the bish the same moral authority as Kim Jong Ill?

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:28:32 UTC | #881435

Tintern's Avatar Comment 6 by Tintern

Comment 4. It will be fascinating to see what defence they mount. I suspect it will be more "vigorous" and full of "steady resolve" than their defence of the children abused. Anyway, go Kansas!

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:29:09 UTC | #881436

justinesaracen's Avatar Comment 7 by justinesaracen

When I see a picture like that I have to smirk just a bit. What was going through his head at that moment? "Look at me, dressed in all this holy stuff. I must really be chosen. Man of God, and all that. Am I hot, or what? And think of all the groveling I am going to get from people. What a turn-on."

Or maybe I'm just projecting.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:13:35 UTC | #881444

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 8 by drumdaddy

For all of the salacious activities and accusations, their real crime is in parading around as extensions of a fictional supernatural entity. Criminal insanity.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:34:15 UTC | #881449

M69att's Avatar Comment 9 by M69att

Sorry to disappoint you Steve but the article says that the indictment is only a Misdemeanor charge. He's not going down for it. Let's just hope that during the process even more egg sticks to the, already considerably eggy, face of the RC church.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:52:47 UTC | #881452

louis14's Avatar Comment 10 by louis14

So the Bishop has been indicted for 'failure to report suspected child abuse'.

And "Bishop Finn acknowledged that he knew of the photographs last December but did not turn them over to the police until May."

So now he's gong to 'fight the charges with all his strength'. [And] said in a statement: “We will meet these announcements with a steady resolve and a vigorous defense.”

So is he going to argue in court that waiting six months before acting, and allowing the priest to continue his child pornography interests, is not failure to report suspected child abuse? What was the Bishop doing with the photographs between December and May? Masturbating?

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 11:59:22 UTC | #881456

isisdron's Avatar Comment 11 by isisdron

to Kansas--- which just shut down all its abortion clinics...I hope you guys see the light on this one.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:22:59 UTC | #881461

Vicar of Art on Earth's Avatar Comment 12 by Vicar of Art on Earth

The Vatican and its follower on many issues are more concerned with how the organization grows than with the people it is suppose to help. Many charities operate this way such as Special Olympics where its fundraising duo of Arnold Swartzeneggar and Maria Shriver took dental care away from folks with developmental disabilities in California yet feel free to be experts in disability and the use of politically correct language.

The church is will to excommunicate pro choice advocates, yet Catholic Justice Scalia can advocate killing adult fetuses for capital crimes if a convicted but maybe innocent person's paperwork is not in order as he recently ruled in Georgia's latest execution.

I have to stop before I get nasty. Thank you all for being a little bit of sanity.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:25:07 UTC | #881462

Rich Wiltshir's Avatar Comment 13 by Rich Wiltshir

Another indication that capiliary action will draw legal consequences throughout this vulgar institution; make the abuse stop, let the trials begin and the rcc start falling like the rotten plank of corrupt insects that it surely is.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:31:15 UTC | #881464

Mr DArcy's Avatar Comment 14 by Mr DArcy

Will the Bishop use The Nuremburg defence?

"I was only following orders".

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:43:21 UTC | #881467

aquilacane's Avatar Comment 15 by aquilacane

“This is huge for us,” said Michael Hunter, director of the Kansas City chapter of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, and a victim of sexual abuse by a priest.

OK, right here is the problem and this just kills me. People actually send their kids to be cared for and educated by a group of people for which there has been a Survivors Network established to help those who have unfortunately come into contact with this religion. And, not just a Survivor Network but one with Chapters around the world. Welcome to the Lower East Martenburg Catholic Priest, Kiddy Fucker Survivors Club.

I swear, the Catholic cult has as many rape victim groups as they have churches. I am starting to assume most Catholics have had this done to them. The guilt burden, embarrassment and acceptance (out of some strange Stockholm Syndrome like admiration for their abusers) is the only reason, I can see, why so many keep quiet. That or most Catholics are evil fuckers.

Shouldn't Survivor Networks be for things like surviving the Titanic, the Holocaust or a really bad Tsunami? Not going to church. Let's keep pumping our fists into this piece of shit Evil Empire. They have no claim to morality other than to be utterly void of it.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:49:35 UTC | #881469

StephenH's Avatar Comment 16 by StephenH

The full force of the law should be unleashed.

People should not be allowed to hide behind robes and religions (special respect given). People that have abused not only youngsters, but also the trust for the status they hold within society

The men and women of the cloth are supposed to be coming from a position of high morality.

The message is clear, they keep trying to link morality with religion

A person that fails to report it for any length of time, is aiding the crime. Then further crimes are committed in the meantime

One has to ask why?

They are despicable excuses for human beings, and they tarnish the reputations of the religious organsations that they are a part of.

They are like a family, caring for and protecting each other.

But when it comes to people that commit these terrible crimes, there should be no hiding places

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:10:46 UTC | #881478

AtheistButt's Avatar Comment 17 by AtheistButt

I have a problem with this -

A decade ago the American bishops pledged to report suspected abusers to law enforcement authorities — a policy also recommended last year by the Vatican

Surely it should be required by law, and not up to the bishops or the Vatican to decide whether they will or won't report?

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:11:12 UTC | #881479

thebaldgit's Avatar Comment 18 by thebaldgit

I have said on these pages my times, that it is bad enough that child sex abuse cases are occuring within the catholic church but the crime is magnified when the church refuses to do anything about it and on the contrary covers it up. I expect that this should be the first of many cases throughout the world where the churches cover ups can be exposed and they pay the full penalty under law.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:12:26 UTC | #881480

cerad's Avatar Comment 19 by cerad

Comment 11 by isisdron :

to Kansas--- which just shut down all its abortion clinics...I hope you guys see the light on this one.

I wonder if this is the real reason why the church is so opposed to abortion. Fewer kids == fewer playmates for the priests.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:21:56 UTC | #881482

champak5501@yahoo.com's Avatar Comment 20 by champak5501@yahoo.com

The perfect defense for the Bishop:- 1) "Since Jesus Christ the only begotten SON of GOD has already died for all the Sins" 2) "You cannot be sentenced twice for the same crime". Therefore ... Strong, steady, resolute, vigorous and also extremely cogent !!! Best of Luck Father !!!

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:24:30 UTC | #881484

Agrajag's Avatar Comment 21 by Agrajag

Is it only a coincidence that this is happening in the shadow of the Garden of Eden?
;-)
Steve

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:55:08 UTC | #881491

M69att's Avatar Comment 22 by M69att

Re' comment by StephenH

They are despicable excuses for human beings, and they tarnish the reputations of the religious organsations that they are a part of.

I think Stephen, that the prevailing reputation of the Catholic Church, on this website at least, is one so thoroughly covered in shit that the shit itself should provide a protective coating against further tarnish! Basically it couldn't really get much worse and these cases just give us a chance to nod sagely and remember what we already knew, if you teach people to behave according to faith and put that faith in an ultimate authority people will abuse each other.

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:12:10 UTC | #881498

Teknical's Avatar Comment 23 by Teknical

I wouldn't get too carried away. A few photographs won't do much to harm the church and a scapegoat here or there may do the trick. If it continues for much longer there will be cries of a 'witch hunt' and the ramblings of 'media hysteria' should just about wrap it up nicely.

The priest is of course innocent unless proven guilty. So thats innocent then . . .

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:02:33 UTC | #881528

Rikitiki13's Avatar Comment 24 by Rikitiki13

"...25-year history of the church’s sex abuse scandals..."

This. Right here. 25 YEARS and just now and indictment...and simply a misdemeanor charge at that. Yeah, as if such abuse has only been going on from the Catholic church for 25 years...nope, much longer than that! Only now are they getting caught and prosecuted for their hands in the cookie jar. What utter slimeballs...

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 16:41:04 UTC | #881538

btheist's Avatar Comment 25 by btheist

Thank you FSM, our prayers have finally been answered!

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:11:13 UTC | #881543

Chris Boccia's Avatar Comment 26 by Chris Boccia

Comment 4 by The Truth, the light :

I wonder what on earth they could come up as a reasonable defence.

Comment 6 by Tintern :

Comment 4. It will be fascinating to see what defence they mount. I suspect it will be more "vigorous" and full of "steady resolve" than their defence of the children abused. Anyway, go Kansas!

Comment 14 by Mr DArcy :

Will the Bishop use The Nuremburg defence?

Alright, this is getting ridiculous. Defense is spelled with an 's.'

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:14:16 UTC | #881545

btheist's Avatar Comment 27 by btheist

Comment 26 --- I guess people just want the take away the Bishop's fence :-)

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 17:42:28 UTC | #881556

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 28 by Alan4discussion

The bishop signaled he would fight the charges with all his strength. He said in a statement: “We will meet these announcements with a steady resolve and a vigorous defense.

I wonder who will pay for the legal representatives making this vigorous defence?

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 18:26:30 UTC | #881572

mjwemdee's Avatar Comment 29 by mjwemdee

@ Comment 26

Not here in the UK it isn't. Oxford Dictionary cites the spelling: defence

Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:25:07 UTC | #881619

A. R's Avatar Comment 30 by A. R

All I can possibly say is that it's about time the justice system somewhere did something concrete to these horrid paedophiles and their protectors.

Tue, 18 Oct 2011 02:41:38 UTC | #881692