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caseybvdc74's Avatar Comment 1 by caseybvdc74

We need to figure out why god hates tectonic plate boundaries.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:10:55 UTC | #884754

brighterstill's Avatar Comment 2 by brighterstill

No no no, it's not god. It's the devil stirring the magmatic convection currents in the mantle which is causing the earthquakes. Well, either that or physics. But physics is haaaard.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:19:36 UTC | #884755

ShadowMind's Avatar Comment 3 by ShadowMind

..take refuge in religion...

During the earthquakes here in Christchurch, churches (as a group) were the hardest hit and a lot of them lost steeples or collapsed completely. So religion (or a religious building) would not be much of a refuge!

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:24:24 UTC | #884756

Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 4 by Cook@Tahiti

Cue all the predictable mockery, but is this premature? Are there any senior Turkish clerics (Pat Robertson equivalents) blaming this particular earthquake on women's exposed ankles or gays or whatever?

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:25:29 UTC | #884757

anonymous.shyster's Avatar Comment 5 by anonymous.shyster

Yes, but he didn't mention the other possible causes which seemingly have to connection to geographic disturbances, along the lines of women dressing immodestly, the lack of human sacrifices could also be a good candidate to be blamed for something completely unrelated.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:30:09 UTC | #884758

Quine's Avatar Comment 6 by Quine

What? Are we back to Boobquake?

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:40:29 UTC | #884759

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 7 by Ignorant Amos

Just watched Marcus du Sautoy and the "Faster Than the Speed of Light?" programme about those wee bugger neutrino's and how the are messing with physics....my head is about to explode, so I shall leave this one to you lot just getting in from work stateside...I need a lie down, tell Zeus to keep it down for a few hours.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:53:35 UTC | #884762

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 8 by Neodarwinian

Well, it is cheaper to take " refuge " in religion than taking proper building precautions.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:11:15 UTC | #884764

SheerReason's Avatar Comment 9 by SheerReason

Comment 4 by Rtambree :

Cue all the predictable mockery, but is this premature? Are there any senior Turkish clerics (Pat Robertson equivalents) blaming this particular earthquake on women's exposed ankles or gays or whatever?

This is a common argument among cult leaders around the world. They view natural disasters as the direct intervention of Gawd. The man in question in the article is one Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi who is a senior cleric in Iran who leads the Friday prayer which is nationally observed. Turkey was recently hit with a quake and the country is 99% muslim and adopted some Islamic law. The article merely points out that Gawd must be angry with Muslims too given the quakes in Iran and Turkey recently.

This same claptrap is espoused by most religious groups. Particularly the more fanatical such as the Westboro baptist Church here in the United States. The Westboro Baptist Church believes that Hurricane Katrina was a punishment by Gawd for the blatant homosexuality and promiscuity in Louisiana.

In Iran and Turkey, they're brainwashed with religious/cult programming on a daily basis. Islam isn't just an identity of faith, but it's a large portion of their culture as well. People in those places tend to take these boobs seriously, unfortunately. sigh....

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:20:25 UTC | #884765

Sara12's Avatar Comment 10 by Sara12

If I donate through NBGA, through RD.net, does it go to IRC's general fund or can it go specifically for Turkey? Partially related side note, I was just looking at the NBGA link here and I remember there being pictures of Japan earlier in the year from the tsumani and there are still pictures of Joplin MO. No pictures of Turkey yet. Four days later and they are still pulling people out alive. Pretty amazing.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:20:34 UTC | #884766

dbl_blnd's Avatar Comment 11 by dbl_blnd

During the earthquakes here in Christchurch, churches (as a group) were the hardest hit and a lot of them lost steeples or collapsed completely.

One would think in a city with that name... nevermind.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:31:16 UTC | #884769

Functional Atheist's Avatar Comment 12 by Functional Atheist

I always wonder, when hearing this sort of nonsense, how representative it is. I suspect many of the less educated monotheists, particularly of the Islamic and Christian varieties, are at least open to the suggestion that natural disasters are a consequence of sin, or a harbinger of the End Times. But what proportion of their communities do those people represent, and how intense, on average, is their conviction that God's wrath manifests itself in this manner?

That a subgroup of a group that is already demonstrably superstitious and gullible is particularly superstitious and gullible is unsurprising. Ridiculing the sillier manifestations of religion is hard to resist, but it feels akin to shooting fish in a barrel.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:49:28 UTC | #884772

Premiseless's Avatar Comment 13 by Premiseless

As the last dinosaur fell, one wondered what it was a woman, absent hijab, must be doing? Surely, there can be no other explanation? Is this the limit of mans speculated intelligence about the women that bore him? A cover for the fossil record?

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:05:50 UTC | #884776

Pete H's Avatar Comment 14 by Pete H

You don’t have to just shoot fish in a barrel. You could also take the money and run with it, if they are seriously committed to this hypothesis.

Perhaps there’s an opportunity to help out with practical experiments, once the Imam’s research funding cheque clears? Experiments might be relatively cheap and the Imam might even be eligible for a dual Nobel Prize in Physics and Moral Depravity if the theory is supported by experiment.

For ethical considerations the testing could happen in Australia where so much city infrastructure is already burnt, flooded, or otherwise dilapidated owing to decades of socialist maladministration. Atheists could also be employed as subjects, because they’ve already forfeited their heaven options. Using atheists should also keep costs down owing to their lack of moral compass and consequential enthusiasm for immodest dress and adultery.

I’m not sure how to control for Australian moral depravity having different effects on god, by diverting god’s southern hemisphere wrath towards fires, floods, and socialism rather than earthquakes.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:09:29 UTC | #884777

alf1200's Avatar Comment 15 by alf1200

Ok, now I get it. These "loose" women with their ankles exposed caused men in these Arab countrys to start shaking in their boots.(sandals)

That started stress in the tectonic plates which caused them to rupture. (among other things)

I say lets get rid of ankles.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 03:12:40 UTC | #884779

DaveUK9xx's Avatar Comment 16 by DaveUK9xx

OMG. If women showing their ankles increases earthquakes what on earth must papparazzi "upshots" of unbeknickered harlots like Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan trying to get out of cars without showing their pubes do to the tectonic plates? Clearly camels are ok but cameltoes are bad m'kay.

Gawd must be very puritanical if he gets so offended by such trivial things. Maybe he'll start turning people into pillars of salt again. After all he apparently did that once just because someone turned her head so flashing your vajinga to the media must rate a whole new level of punishment.

When will the people on this planet start to grow up and become actually civilised rather than ranting about mythological mumbo jumbo every time a house falls down? I'm not holding my breath.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 04:16:17 UTC | #884786

aquilacane's Avatar Comment 17 by aquilacane

"Many women who do not dress modestly lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which increases earthquakes.”

Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi

A scribble on that. Whoa!

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:08:20 UTC | #884791

Schrodinger's Cat's Avatar Comment 18 by Schrodinger's Cat

“Many women who do not dress modestly lead young men astray, corrupt their chastity and spread adultery in society, which increases earthquakes”

OK...fess up. Who's been secretly commiting adultery on Mars ? Your sins have been picked up by NASA probe seismometers.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 05:34:37 UTC | #884796

susanlatimer's Avatar Comment 19 by susanlatimer

comment 15 by Alf1200

I say lets get rid of ankles.

Seconded. Everyone knows that the reason sin and death entered into the world in the first place is because of a woman's ankles. Adam was unable to think straight and you know the rest of the story.

All this feminist mumbo jumbo about reproductive rights and economic parity is just a waste of energy and money. What the world needs is medical research into developing an efficient and "relatively" painless anklelectomy for all women across the earth. Then, there would be no more earthquakes and women would be righteously restricted to the kitchen where they could focus their energies into making better sandwiches for the men so that the men could more effectively devote THEIR superior intellects to figuring out exactly which kind of sacrifice would most please god/gods.

The result would be a better world. No more earthquakes and better sandwiches.

@aquilicane

Another excellent scribble. Your scribbles are treasures.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:05:03 UTC | #884797

alf1200's Avatar Comment 20 by alf1200

"comment by susanlatimer "All this feminist mumbo jumbo about reproductive rights and economic parity is just a waste of energy and money. What the world needs is medical research into developing an efficient and "relatively" painless anklelectomy for all women across the earth."

Yup, And they would be eaiser to catch!

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:52:00 UTC | #884808

sbooder's Avatar Comment 21 by sbooder

Maybe Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi is on to something here.

We could place immodestly dressed women at strategic points near tectonic plates and use them as early warning systems.

This could work; I know for a fact that every time my wife dresses immodestly our bed shakes!

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:11:57 UTC | #884812

Explorer's Avatar Comment 22 by Explorer

It is difficult to know the motive behind these utterings. Is it medieval thinking in the twenty-first century or simply capitalising on natural disasters to boost one's own clerical credentials, and at the same time frightening the uneducated into greater devoutness.

If Allah wanted to take revenge on immodest female dress code, he wouldn't have used Ercis to set the example, where most towns and villages have not yet seen the influx of Western "un-islamic" standards. Undoubtebly, it would have been Marmaris or Bodrum, where his wrath would have been exacted. Perhaps that is where this chap goes on his holidays, for research purposes only, of course!

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:30:02 UTC | #884813

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 23 by drumdaddy

Hojatoleslam Kazem Sedighi appears to be another stinker in a long line of misogynistic small-brains.

To correct the author, Jerry Falwell is not "sainted". Rather, this bloated huckster is rotting in the ground with worms having his marrow for desert. As for Pat Robertson, he still appears on television, rotting before our very eyes.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 07:59:37 UTC | #884818

foundationist's Avatar Comment 24 by foundationist

Comment 18 by Schrodinger's Cat :

OK...fess up. Who's been secretly commiting adultery on Mars ?

Ooops, sorry! I didn´t want to but they said it was standard abduction procedure.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:16:51 UTC | #884829

SaganTheCat's Avatar Comment 25 by SaganTheCat

whatever happened to the good old days when god moved in mysterious ways?

nowadays he's just so predictable. someone somewhere behaves one way, god throws a hissy and kills randoms.

if i was god and people started behaving in a way contrary to how some people interpret some stuff some other people attributed to me, i'd go in for reverse psychology, women choosing their own way of life? bumper crop harvests. gays not in enough suicidal denial? world droughts come to an end.

that way when i send them to hell it'll have a much higher impact.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 09:24:52 UTC | #884830

Teknical's Avatar Comment 26 by Teknical

Science in action again, cause and effect.

Everything except the cause and effect bit.

Someone needs to reach out and talk to these people. Do the ones living in the west not understand the difference between science and the superstition?

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:09:58 UTC | #884837

MilitantNonStampCollector's Avatar Comment 27 by MilitantNonStampCollector

I'd love to see a book putting forward the hypothesis of religion as a mental illness. And this lunacy could be another bit of evidence among the massive amount of evidence in support.

@Aqualine

Hilarious scribble

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:21:21 UTC | #884842

BenS's Avatar Comment 28 by BenS

Comment 18 by Schrodinger's Cat :

OK...fess up. Who's been secretly commiting adultery on Mars ? Your sins have been picked up by NASA probe seismometers.

You know it's a good night out when you wake up in a train station at the foot of Olympus Mons.

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:48:38 UTC | #884850

Mike61's Avatar Comment 29 by Mike61

We should investigate further how sheep's bladders can be implemented to prevent earthquakes....... Monty Python, Sir Bedevere

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 10:52:07 UTC | #884853

Mr DArcy's Avatar Comment 30 by Mr DArcy

It sounds like this iman is measuring earthquakes using the Erector Scale!

Fri, 28 Oct 2011 11:37:45 UTC | #884866