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Mrkimbo's Avatar Comment 1 by Mrkimbo

The guy's an absolute space cadet.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:39:41 UTC | #912052

Zeroxzero's Avatar Comment 2 by Zeroxzero

One thing you have to admit, Gingrich is by far and away the most interesting candidate.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:55:34 UTC | #912054

Quine's Avatar Comment 3 by Quine

As a child, I watched the live coverage when John F. Kennedy challenged the science and engineering community to put a man on the moon and return safely within the decade. As difficult and expensive as it was, John Kennedy knew what he was asking. Newt, you are no John Kennedy.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:55:39 UTC | #912055

HardNosedSkeptic's Avatar Comment 4 by HardNosedSkeptic

Comment 1 by Mrkimbo :

The guy's an absolute space cadet.

I agree. He sounds pretty spaced-out to me.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:56:16 UTC | #912056

ZenDruid's Avatar Comment 5 by ZenDruid

Oh splendid, he rendered the Hohmann transfer orbit obsolete! Yea team!

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Also, what Quine said.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 20:57:08 UTC | #912057

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 6 by Neodarwinian

This is Gingrich for you. Just keep the ideas coming and if they are bad ideas, so what, just go onto the next big idea. The idea shell game!

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:05:38 UTC | #912058

justinesaracen's Avatar Comment 7 by justinesaracen

The difference between Newt's "Plan" and a real space program is the difference between designing a venture within given scientific and technological parameters with a realistic budget (and its source)...

and drawing a cartoon of a rocket ship and making a "VROOOOM!" sound in your throat.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:09:31 UTC | #912059

Sean_W's Avatar Comment 8 by Sean_W

This fool will bring the Goa'uld!

--hehehe, that's so bad---I feel somewhat comfortable with it though given that a man running for president has said worse without the protection of anonymity. -hehehe

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:11:12 UTC | #912061

Naturalist1's Avatar Comment 9 by Naturalist1

Oh Yes....and I'm all for Newt being the new moon colony's first full time colonist.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:13:34 UTC | #912062

The Jersey Devil's Avatar Comment 10 by The Jersey Devil

Newt is delusional and an embarrassment.

I wonder if he secretly imagines the colony populated by Wealthy Christian Americans and their slaves.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:22:55 UTC | #912063

Schrodinger's Cat's Avatar Comment 11 by Schrodinger's Cat

Hmm. I thought Republican Moon Base 1 had been done already.......complete with the apocalypse....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WZW4groJro

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:39:22 UTC | #912067

GregGorey's Avatar Comment 12 by GregGorey

While I am highly critical of Ron Paul, he had an amazing one liner: "I don't think we should go to the moon, I think we should send some politicians up there."

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:40:46 UTC | #912068

dragonclarke's Avatar Comment 13 by dragonclarke

This fool's going to end up with egg on his face.

I've already begun work on my tunnel to the moon and I estimate that I will get there in only 8 years (I've only been digging for 20 minutes and I'm already nearly through to the flat downstairs).

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:04:06 UTC | #912072

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 14 by Alan4discussion

Comment 9 by Naturalist1

Oh Yes....and I'm all for Newt being the new moon colony's first full time colonist.

I have a better idea:-

Oh Yes.!!!!...and I'm all for Newt being the new SUN colony's first full time colonist. - Star treatment!

"By the end of my second term, we will have the first permanent base on the moon and it will be American," Gingrich said to applause.

Of course by the end of his first term USA would be bankrupt!

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:18:45 UTC | #912074

MilitantNonStampCollector's Avatar Comment 15 by MilitantNonStampCollector

This coming from the same twit who thinks faith is an essential prerequisite for making judgments in office. As in "my god has a bigger dick than that bad Islamic one". Yea, essential stuff there Newt!

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:24:51 UTC | #912075

nurnord's Avatar Comment 16 by nurnord

Well written article Lawrence, and it exposes with great clarity the reality of such a venture - it's nuts !

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:50:43 UTC | #912084

rjohn19's Avatar Comment 17 by rjohn19

Now wait a minute. Let's think this through.

All we have to do is convince a couple of TV Evangelists that the moon colony was the staging ground for the rapture. I'd certainly pony up my fair share to rocket them out of my hair.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:53:11 UTC | #912085

papa lazaru's Avatar Comment 18 by papa lazaru

Simple answer. Oil. With that much sand, it must be full of it.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:59:28 UTC | #912087

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 19 by Alan4discussion

Unlike Newt's all USA isolationist fantasy with private sponsorship, NASA's plans are for an international cooperative effort (like the ISS) sharing costs and technological returns.

What space agencies participated?

In addition to NASA, space exploration experts from Australia, Canada, China, the European Space Agency, France, Germany, Great Britain, India, Italy, Japan, Russia, South Korea, and Ukraine participated.

http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/news/GES_FAQ.html
What did the multilateral discussions produce?

The discussions generated agreement on six strategic themes for lunar exploration, 180 possible objectives within those themes, and a draft framework document. More information about the themes and objectives can be found on the Exploration website at www.nasa.gov/exploration. The participants agreed on the themes that answer the question "Why return to the moon?" The themes are:
1. Exploration Preparation: To use the moon to prepare for future human and robotic missions to Mars and other destinations

2. Scientific Knowledge: To pursue scientific activities addressing fundamental questions about Earth, the solar system, the universe and our place in them
3. Sustained Presence: To extend human presence to the moon
4. Economic Expansion: To expand Earth's economic sphere to encompass the moon and to pursue lunar activities with direct benefits to life on Earth
5. Global Partnership: To strengthen existing international partnerships and create new ones
6. Inspiration: To engage, inspire and educate the public.

The Global Exploration Strategy is a work in progress. It will inform future discussions between NASA and its partners on areas of collaboration and cooperation in the exploration of the moon, Mars, and beyond.

There are intelligent plans for Moon and Mars exploration and bases, as part of a wider exploration of the Solar System and cosmology, but Newt clearly has no idea about the costs, benefits or the science involved.

http://www.bis-space.com/what-we-do/publications/books/project-boreas-%E2%80%93-a-station-for-the-martian-geographic-north-pole

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:11:56 UTC | #912094

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 20 by drumdaddy

Republicans want manned missions to Mars only in order to bankrupt projects for climate monitoring and earth science. They are very sick of all of this science stuff besmirching the beloved fossil fuel industries.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:12:58 UTC | #912095

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 21 by Alan4discussion

Comment 20 by drumdaddy

Republicans want manned missions to Mars only in order to bankrupt projects for climate monitoring and earth science. They are very sick of all of this science stuff besmirching the beloved fossil fuel industries.

SHHHHHHHhh! Don't tell them that liquid hydrogen + Lox rockets, burn no oil, and only produce steam as an exhaust gas!

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:20:35 UTC | #912097

Schrodinger's Cat's Avatar Comment 22 by Schrodinger's Cat

Of course there's oil on the Moon ! I mean....it stands to reason that God would have given Republicans an incentive to go there by parking all the dinosaurs and prehistoric fauna there during the flood, the resultant dinosaur poo and plant mush turning into oil.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:24:58 UTC | #912098

Karen Hill Anton's Avatar Comment 23 by Karen Hill Anton

Thank you, Lawrence Krauss, for your refreshing voice of reason, science, intelligence. So little (ever?) heard in the American political environment.

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:29:11 UTC | #912101

Functional Atheist's Avatar Comment 24 by Functional Atheist

Newt is not a stupid man, but he's extraordinarily undisciplined. For him to make such a ridiculous proposal on the heels of his victory in South Carolina is yet more evidence that he'd be a dangerously reckless President, given to delusional grandiosity on a scale that would humble George W. Bush.

Either his aides have all drunk the Kool-Aid, or he chose to disregard any voice of sanity in the room: "Now is the time to appear to be sober and disciplined--a credible and plausible future President. Going onto one of your visionary tangents at this moment would be a major error, Mr. Speaker, and will harm your chances of earning the Republican nomination."

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:54:07 UTC | #912108

msloane's Avatar Comment 25 by msloane

Oh, I hope he wins the republican race to front up to Barack. I don't want this comedy to end :o)

Fri, 27 Jan 2012 23:56:03 UTC | #912109

mlgatheist's Avatar Comment 26 by mlgatheist

For man to have a chance to survive longer than this solar system, man needs to colonize other solar systems. We need to start by colonizing this solar system. I have been hoping for either the moon or Mars colony within my lifetime.

Unfortunately this isn't the time. We need to pay off this National Debt before looking into comercial colonizing of this system.

We can pay off this debt by taxing all religious institutions and making those with the money pay their fair share of the taxes. Then we can look into this endeavor which definitely would get a lot people work.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 00:28:55 UTC | #912113

SomersetJohn's Avatar Comment 27 by SomersetJohn

Seems to me that over the pond, first rate con artists start new religions, second raters like Haggard and Robertson join an existing one and the bottom feeders like Newt become politicians.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 00:49:45 UTC | #912117

soren's Avatar Comment 28 by soren

I grant the plan is silly, and Gingrich is nuts in most respects, but we aren't we being a bit hard on him? There's a point he's making that more important than the realism of this plan, namely, he sees that the space program needs more ambitious support from Washington. I think of Carl Sagan lamenting how after the moon landing the task of exploring space hit its zenith, and I find it heartening that somebody, even crazy ol' Newt thinks the same. His job as president wouldn't be to tell scientists what is feasible; in the end, they will tell him that, and he will be in a position to support scientific endeavor, and clueless as he is, I don't see any other candidates vowing the same level of support for science. I advise no one to vote for him, but I appreciate that he has drawn public attention to the dereliction of the space program. One wishes he had done it in a competent way, but at least he did it.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:09:12 UTC | #912119

Agrajag's Avatar Comment 29 by Agrajag

Read what Bob Dole said about the amphibian HERE. Wow.
Steve

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 01:57:37 UTC | #912121

Grand-Mufti's Avatar Comment 30 by Grand-Mufti

one could populate the moon colony with lifers,they are more likely to die in prison ...

the cost of prisons in America was $38.8 billion in fiscal year 2010

Quite simply Australia wasn't founded by criminals? give each inmate some cannabis seeds &Watermelon Seeds

they can work,smoke and drink Watermelon Shooter cocktails for the rest of their life plus munch on buffalo wings...TGIFshipp&deliver rapidly hot wings to the moon

Sherlock Holmes to John Watson, OMFG i don't want even think about this...

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:22:30 UTC | #912123