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Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 1 by Cook@Tahiti

Keep the poor and ignorant focussed on the next life and luckily they won't notice what we're doing in this life.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:53:30 UTC | #912225

Sean_W's Avatar Comment 2 by Sean_W

Imagine instead a year of competency testing of government officials. We'll do the entire nation and the results will be published weekly. It's sure to be more popular even than American Idol (...no it's not, dammit), I'd tune in though.

We can test them on all sorts of relevant topics, but I suggest for fun that we start with Biblical Literacy. -that should put an end to all this

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:59:44 UTC | #912227

gordon's Avatar Comment 3 by gordon

It'll soon be over and anyway, next year is the year of Viz.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:03:08 UTC | #912230

SomersetJohn's Avatar Comment 4 by SomersetJohn

Too late to worry about the separation of Church and State, lets worry about the separation of mind and reason.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:04:23 UTC | #912231

potteryshard's Avatar Comment 5 by potteryshard

Unfortunately, no surprises here. Religion and politics have always been willing and eager bedfellows. By promoting religious refocusing on the hereafter, politicians get help in plundering the present. Conversely, by pandering to the political rape and pillage, religions get awarded laws and conventions that institutionalize their special treatment.

How can we break this mutually self-serving linkage?

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:08:19 UTC | #912234

tembuki's Avatar Comment 6 by tembuki

Comment 5 by potteryshard :

Religion and politics have always been willing and eager bedfellows

And they're not even married! Shame on them after spending so much time promoting "values."

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:48:04 UTC | #912242

ThisCanNotBeTheFuture's Avatar Comment 7 by ThisCanNotBeTheFuture

Man, that war on religion the GOP is always bitching about is getting out of hand.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:49:00 UTC | #912244

Daryl 's Avatar Comment 8 by Daryl

2012? Oh, I thought they meant 1012. Wrong millenium. Sorry.

For those who have never been to Pennsylvania (and it is a really beautiful place), you have to realize that it has Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Tennessee in the middle.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:51:06 UTC | #912245

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 9 by drumdaddy

This was passed with a unanimous vote! Incredible chutzpah!

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:05:46 UTC | #912251

JuJu's Avatar Comment 10 by JuJu

Religious beliefs are the evidence of propensity for fallibility in brains, especially those of the human variety.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:23:36 UTC | #912253

debaser71's Avatar Comment 11 by debaser71

Dear god, please protect me from those who believe in you.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:39:42 UTC | #912256

Finch's Avatar Comment 12 by Finch

Comment 8 by Daryl :

2012? Oh, I thought they meant 1012. Wrong millenium. Sorry.

For those who have never been to Pennsylvania (and it is a really beautiful place), you have to realize that it has Philadelphia in the east, Pittsburgh in the west, and Tennessee in the middle.

I've lived in Pennsylvania all of my life (indeed, it is a beautiful state with a balance of major cities, suburbs, and 100s-of-thousands of square miles of forests and wide-open spaces). We have a long history of freedom from religious persecution (thank you, William Penn), which has fostered religious and a-religious diversity, within the state.

Rest assured that this legislation will be challenged in court because it is a clear violation Pennsylvania's State Constitution under "Religious Freedom," (Section 3), stating the following:

"All men [and women] have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences; no man [or woman] can of right be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship or to maintain any ministry against his [or her] consent; no human authority can, in any case whatever, control or interfere with the rights of conscience, and no preference shall ever be given by law to any religious establishments or modes of worship."

It will be challenged and struck down.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:18:20 UTC | #912262

JeffersonBible's Avatar Comment 13 by JeffersonBible

I will accept "The Year of the Jefferson Bible" where Jefferson ripped out the violence, hatred, bigotry, lies, distortions and magic tricks. What was left was some 90 pages of nice teachings and harmless notions. The Jefferson Bible...Tearing Fundies a new one since the 1850's!

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:18:47 UTC | #912263

BigNoboDaddy's Avatar Comment 14 by BigNoboDaddy

Excellent idea - hopefully the faith heads will set aside sometime to actually read their stupid book and in the process debunk themselves.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:25:47 UTC | #912269

blitz442's Avatar Comment 15 by blitz442

Comment 13 by JeffersonBible

What was left was some 90 pages of nice teachings and harmless notions.

Such as? While I love your post, I am struggling to see what wonderful teachings were left after Jefferson got rid of all the blatantly ridiculous stuff.

For instance, did Jefferson expunge Jesus' teachings that he was the Son of God sent to save mankind from eternal doom? And that even the effect of this saving act is conditional upon blind faith?

Did he include in his version Jesus' clear visions of the imminent end of the world, where the good will be rewarded and the evil punished?

Even Jesus' seemingly indisputably good teachings such as "love your enemy" can be questioned - why should love be unconditional?

Jesus' teachings, even when stripped of the wizardry and silliness, are still hugely problematic and potentially harmful. They can be summed up as follows: Jesus asserts that mankind lives in a kingdom ruled by a powerful and terrible celestial king, who created mankind for the sole purpose of serving the king. However, man has willfully disobeyed the king and as a consequence, will suffer greatly. To avert this suffering, Jesus teaches that he will be offered as a blood sacrifice for the benefit of a select few members of mankind. Those who do not blindly swallow these assertions as true will suffer terribly during the end of the world, which will happen within a few decades.

In other words, Jesus was a creator of fake problems, an incredible fear-monger, and a pie-in-the sky utopian who encouraged people to ignore their real-life problems instead of dealing with them.

I find nothing nice or harmless in this at all.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:28:39 UTC | #912270

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 16 by Neodarwinian

You would think that in these times politicians would have other things to do with their time.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:51:08 UTC | #912276

prettygoodformonkeys's Avatar Comment 17 by prettygoodformonkeys

There should be a whole year of fighting the misinformation that will come out of this.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:02:35 UTC | #912280

Quine's Avatar Comment 18 by Quine

Comment 14 by BigNoboDaddy:
Excellent idea - hopefully the faith heads will set aside sometime to actually read their stupid book and in the process debunk themselves.

Yes, it could be turned into a opportunity to expose the flaws and contradictions as well as all the immoral parts. Also, it could be used to educate people about the man-made nature of scripture and its history. I think they need a good strong dose of "Be careful what you wish for ..."

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:23:15 UTC | #912287

Carlinlives's Avatar Comment 19 by Carlinlives

He is eating shit big time on his Facebook page. Feed him more.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:27:34 UTC | #912288

Mr DArcy's Avatar Comment 20 by Mr DArcy

OK, so it's the year of the Bible. No doubt among the many other gems of wisdom that spring from this divinely inspired work, is:

Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

Exodus 22 18

OK, Salem is in Massachusetts, and they've already dealt with their witches, but there must be plenty of them left in Pennsylvania! Go to it, Christian White Knights!

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:44:45 UTC | #912291

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 21 by Alan4discussion

Comment 8 by Daryl

2012? Oh, I thought they meant 1012. Wrong millenium. Sorry.

1012? - 0012 ?? (Perhaps they were "stoned" while deciding on this legislation?)

"Religious Freedom," (Section 3), stating the following:

"All men [and women] have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences; no man [or woman] can of right be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship or to maintain any ministry against his [or her] consent; no human authority can, in any case whatever, control or interfere with the rights of conscience, and no preference shall ever be given by law to any religious establishments or modes of worship."

It will be challenged and struck down.

That should be interesting when the religinuts and lawyers, exercise their propensity for re-interpreting words to meet their personal required meanings!

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:59:08 UTC | #912309

irate_atheist's Avatar Comment 22 by irate_atheist

Bunch of idiots.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:26:54 UTC | #912317

some asshole's Avatar Comment 23 by some asshole

The need to teach and apply the teachings of the buybull? Like stoning recalcitrant children and adulterating wives to death? Like advocating slavery and genocide?

And these are the same shitbags who scream about being marginalized, discriminated against, yada yada.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:49:05 UTC | #912325

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 24 by Alan4discussion

Comment 16 by Neodarwinian

You would think that in these times politicians would have other things to do with their time.

Those with no useful ideas, clearly are in urgent need of a smoke-screen to distract & hide this!

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:00:38 UTC | #912328

Border Collie's Avatar Comment 25 by Border Collie

Politicians are always spanking the religion monkey, nothing new.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:25:00 UTC | #912336

PERSON's Avatar Comment 26 by PERSON

I thought 397AD was the year of the bible.

Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:42:41 UTC | #912340

JHJEFFERY's Avatar Comment 27 by JHJEFFERY

Comment 26 by PERSON

I thought 397AD was the year of the bible

Close. I think it was around 333 CE (beware: befuddled memory at work). But your point is that it sure shouldn't be 2012!! Will we never outgrow this shit?

Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:07:02 UTC | #912345

AnAtheistBastard's Avatar Comment 28 by AnAtheistBastard

Comment 15 by blitz442 :

Comment 13 by JeffersonBible

What was left was some 90 pages of nice teachings and harmless notions.

Such as? While I love your post, I am struggling to see what wonderful teachings were left after Jefferson got rid of all the blatantly ridiculous stuff. ...

You can check it out here.

Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:12:51 UTC | #912346

Ignorant Amos's Avatar Comment 29 by Ignorant Amos

Comment 27 by JHJEFFERY

16th century maybe???

Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:23:58 UTC | #912357

mmurray's Avatar Comment 30 by mmurray

Comment 18 by Quine :

Comment 14 by BigNoboDaddy: Excellent idea - hopefully the faith heads will set aside sometime to actually read their stupid book and in the process debunk themselves.

Yes, it could be turned into a opportunity to expose the flaws and contradictions as well as all the immoral parts. Also, it could be used to educate people about the man-made nature of scripture and its history. I think they need a good strong dose of "Be careful what you wish for ..."

Yes this is an excellent idea. The perfect excuse to saturate the media with the historical truth about the bible. Bart Ehrman Pennsylvania needs you !

Michael

Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:27:01 UTC | #912359