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Life Without God: An Interview with Tim Prowse - Comments

RDfan's Avatar Comment 1 by RDfan

On the Road to Reason, God is a fast-vanishing figure in the rear-view mirror. Whatever you do, keep your hands on the wheel, your foot on the pedal, and your eye on the road. There is no reverse gear, break-pedal or hand-break on this truth-mobile!

Anyway, enough with suspect metaphors. This story is so uplifting. More! More!

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:54:44 UTC | #918649

Premiseless's Avatar Comment 2 by Premiseless

I get vexed with Sam at times.

"What took you so long?" is a deeply painful search for a sustainable path that just as easily could crumble into poverty if the exit is poorly positioned. From one nightmare into another. Sometimes the cure can kill the patient, albeit more slowly than the poison.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:59:18 UTC | #918659

Tony d's Avatar Comment 3 by Tony d

Congratulations to all the clergy who leave the church .I think they show true integrity. Well done and good luck to you all.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:42:35 UTC | #918672

Mark Jones's Avatar Comment 4 by Mark Jones

Tick, VG. The End of Faith seems to have been the killer blow to Tim Prowse's faith. Who would have thought a book which includes not a small amount of ridicule would have that effect?

And hat's off to his friends who supported him at a difficult time.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:35:52 UTC | #918678

CdnMacAtheist's Avatar Comment 5 by CdnMacAtheist

It's not easy to find - or maintain - freedom of mind, but it's so worth it for the fresh air and clear views.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:59:22 UTC | #918686

Premiseless's Avatar Comment 6 by Premiseless

The funniest line surely?

"I was told not to read Rudolph Bultmann."

And without further ado he dropped the Hell(l) and eventually the butt-mann he had become.

I know this feeling better than I would have liked to have gotten to know it.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:20:24 UTC | #918690

Vorlund's Avatar Comment 7 by Vorlund

The message from the deluded is take your evidence from one book. They know all too well that true knowledge is freedom.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:24:50 UTC | #918692

rod-the-farmer's Avatar Comment 8 by rod-the-farmer

Once I concluded that the Bible was a thoroughly human product and the God it purports does not exist.......

Quite a leap from one to the other. Or is that just me.....?

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:36:33 UTC | #918696

Galactor's Avatar Comment 9 by Galactor

It really is a crying shame that mankind is paying so much to this historic hangup of our evolution. The building of churches, the theological colleges, the man-hours spent in its defence and deference. What we, as a species lose to the efforts of the religious virus, is of course one thing. But to read about people who crawl out of the religious mire and come to the conclusion that they have wasted twenty years of their life, may have lost friendships and have a bleak reduced future, makes me sometimes wonder if we are better off leaving them to it.

But then I think of the innocent who deserve much better.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:57:49 UTC | #918701

Premiseless's Avatar Comment 10 by Premiseless

Comment 9 by Galactor :

But then I think of the innocent who deserve much better.

Religion is the silent slave trade. The in your face, in your schools, abuser that has special sanction to your respecting it by slave trade subversion of your real and proper potential to do otherwise. You are as much a slave to being silent about it, where it insists you must, as the believer is to believing it, when it says they must. Tiered slavery!

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 11:11:39 UTC | #918707

mjwemdee's Avatar Comment 11 by mjwemdee

I found this report really touching.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:36:32 UTC | #918781

aroundtown's Avatar Comment 12 by aroundtown

Breath the free air my friend. A day without religion in it is a day of potential discovery of a mind unhindered and un-tethered to dogma. You can deposit those blinders that are standard issue of religious indoctrination in the trash.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:53:19 UTC | #918790

GBile's Avatar Comment 13 by GBile

Premiseless:

Religion is the silent slave trade.

This certainly is a powerful image. It brings visions of long lines of people, chained to each other by the shackles of their dogmas, commandeered forwards by the popes, the imams, the reverends , the ayatollahs ... Forced to chant the concocted rhymes of their creeds until their minds and hearts are closed.

But a new abolition is under way and I am glad Tim Prowse is free.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:41:23 UTC | #918817

wald0h's Avatar Comment 14 by wald0h

Wow, it almost sounds like being released as a prisoner. Back into normal society and all of the skills and abilities he learned are useless.

It's terrible that a man so well educated and dedicated can be reduced to starting over, but that's theology for you. Like studying unicorns and lecturing to like-minded unicorn believers, then suddenly waking up to the fact that unicorns are ridiculous.

I'm glad he has the family and friends to support his re-entry into rational living, I assume most people struggling with the conflict of religion and reason don't have that luxury. I really hope The Clergy Project is doing their best in not only making sure these people know they're not alone, but helping them get back on their feet once they denounce their faith.

Also, here's a wonderful example against the lie so often told by moderates and apologists that the "new atheist's" militant strident intolerant blah blah ways oc communication actually closes believers and people tetering on their belief off to the idea of just taking the extra step and becoming an atheist or unbeliever. Sam's book was the nail in the coffin for this pastor. The anti-theism, more honest and less panderous books of Sam, Richard, Christopher etc. do have a place in the discussion, and obviously work when the goal is to give people a reason to un-believe.

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:57:57 UTC | #918902