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Premiseless's Avatar Comment 1 by Premiseless

I may not get there with you, but I believe in secular America in a secular World!

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:51:02 UTC | #921060

Zeuglodon's Avatar Comment 2 by Zeuglodon

For sexual health and pregnancy, all options should be available, and we should be educated about them.

Score one.

I believe our schools should teach an evidence based education, uncoloured by religious beliefs.

Score two.

I believe our military should respect and include all our soldiers, religious and secular, and I'm a Christian spiritualist American.

Score three.

I'm a Jewish American.

And we're Agnostic Americans.

I believe that we should welcome religious and secular candidates.

Score four.

I believe we should each choose how to face the end of our lives, without the religious beliefs of others interfering, and I'm an Agnostic American.

Score five.

A spiritual American.

I believe that having lower health standards, religious daycares, and faith healing endangers the lives of all of our children.

Score six.

I believe our tax dollars should only fund institutions that do not discriminate on the basis of religion, and I'm an atheist American.

Score seven.

An agnostic Buddhist American.

I believe our environmental policy should be based on scientific evidence.

Score eight.

I believe that doctors should look beyond religious views to best address the needs of their patients.

Score nine.

I believe we should use and encourage scientific advancement without any limitation from religion, and I'm a Muslim American.

Score ten.

A secular Jewish American.

An atheist American.

I believe that adults of all sexual orientations should have the same rights and privileges, and I'm a Secular Humanist American.

Score eleven.

I believe many Americans share our views but remain silent.

Do you believe in a Secular America?

Full marks! Bravo! An excellent video. Thank you for producing this, Mr Scheib. I enjoyed watching it and I find nothing in it to fault it for.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:20:08 UTC | #921072

notany's Avatar Comment 3 by notany

Well that was just beautiful! Brought a tear to my eye.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:26:05 UTC | #921073

Starcrash's Avatar Comment 4 by Starcrash

Congrats. Nice job and good vid.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:45:33 UTC | #921080

aquilacane's Avatar Comment 5 by aquilacane

Here I am thinking the chucking around of beliefs was the problem, at least that's what I have accepted, so far.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:56:42 UTC | #921085

Premiseless's Avatar Comment 6 by Premiseless

The direction is the right one, but where belief exists, I see lots of innocent victims being consumed at the tectonic plates between it and everyones freedoms to escape it.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:53:00 UTC | #921161

Schrodinger's Cat's Avatar Comment 7 by Schrodinger's Cat

I'd like to believe that a secular state can seperate politics from religion, but the fact that people may often vote based on the religious affiliations of politicians does tend to undermine that principle.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:03:12 UTC | #921168

Richard Dawkins's Avatar Comment 8 by Richard Dawkins

Many congratulations


Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:20:32 UTC | #921291

jaredscheib's Avatar Comment 9 by jaredscheib

Thanks, Richard! Looking forward to the Reason Rally!

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:30:39 UTC | #921296

Peter Grant's Avatar Comment 10 by Peter Grant Do You Believe in a Secular America?

Excellent! I can see why this won.

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:03:24 UTC | #921337

InYourFaceNewYorker's Avatar Comment 11 by InYourFaceNewYorker

Nice. I wish I would have time to enter. And, I confess, I didn't get a chance to watch the others and vote. But this one is really good.

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:50:04 UTC | #921345

Connog's Avatar Comment 12 by Connog

A big round of applause!!

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:30:12 UTC | #921353

DoctorMelkor's Avatar Comment 13 by DoctorMelkor


Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:41:23 UTC | #921358

Sample's Avatar Comment 14 by Sample

Great casting. I particularly liked the senior citizen's thoughtful appeal about the subject of euthanasia.


Fri, 24 Feb 2012 04:46:04 UTC | #921378

I.Dodgyknees's Avatar Comment 15 by I.Dodgyknees

A really professional job, congratulations. The video models the way beautifully - look a theist in the eye today and say what you believe: politely and with conviction.

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:38:35 UTC | #921384

subhani's Avatar Comment 16 by subhani

Congratulations! Jared Scheib. Your video was simple, straightforward and concise. This was one of my favorites: "I believe our schools should teach an evidence based education, uncoloured by religious beliefs."

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:31:56 UTC | #921398

debonnesnouvelles's Avatar Comment 17 by debonnesnouvelles

Comment 11 by InYourFaceNewYorker :

... I confess, I didn't get a chance to watch the others and vote...

That's a shame - but you can still watch the other entries on the RD youtube channel. You know, one a day with your morning coffee for example...

Congratulations, Jared! Great work!

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:38:20 UTC | #921399

GregGorey's Avatar Comment 18 by GregGorey

Excellent work. :D

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:03:53 UTC | #921591

SuedeStonn's Avatar Comment 19 by SuedeStonn

I wonder if Romney's seen this video. :)

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:34:43 UTC | #921603

KRKBAB's Avatar Comment 20 by KRKBAB

very good

I liked it- especially the senior's comment about euthanasia

But (did you feel it coming?) I remain unhappy with the word believe.

Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:24:16 UTC | #921814

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 21 by drumdaddy

Thumbs up!

Sat, 25 Feb 2012 14:25:02 UTC | #921815

nancynancy's Avatar Comment 22 by nancynancy

Congratulations, Jared! Excellent video.

Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:48:39 UTC | #921903

aroundtown's Avatar Comment 23 by aroundtown

This is my brief opinion on the contest winners video. I didn't vote for the winning video and my choice was the video with the past presidents declarations/belief in a separation of church and state at the core of the nations tenants. The idea's in the winners video are admirable but to much of an all over the board proposal on all of our issues and the message gets lost by trying to include every need of the secular citizen. The ability to change American minds are not achieved by opinions of the populace, change takes place with action and direction aided by the courts to achieve those ends. One can easily witness this principal in the civil rights or gay rights movement to secure their principals in general. The winning video is going to be played at the rally and for me the stronger message to the American populace would have been a staunch reminder of the past leaders opinions that religion was not a founding principal in totality, that would have been the equivalent of a first step out of the present darkness with the idea that religion is our base. Religion is not and never was the founding principal for American and that needs to be reinforced in the minds of the population to thwart the right wing agenda that would have us believe otherwise.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:58:59 UTC | #922070

Bipedal Primate's Avatar Comment 24 by Bipedal Primate

Comment 3 by notany :

Well that was just beautiful! Brought a tear to my eye.

Same here.

Tue, 28 Feb 2012 00:38:01 UTC | #922609

Anonymous's Avatar Comment 25 by Anonymous

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Tue, 28 Feb 2012 02:56:20 UTC | #922640

xmaseveeve's Avatar Comment 26 by xmaseveeve

Get a life. Read another book or two hundred. And learn to use paragraphs. Keep your faith to yourself, okay? If you have a rational thing to say for yourself, say it. Think for yourself.

Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:04:06 UTC | #922645

debonnesnouvelles's Avatar Comment 27 by debonnesnouvelles

Comment 23 by aroundtown :

This is my brief opinion on the contest winners video...

Of course the video that you favored was itself a very good attempt. My wild guess as to why it did not have a chance of securing enough votes is that it required work from the viewer. I don't know about you, but I tend to prefer not to make effort if I can avoid it. The sequences were long and you had to make an effort to read the quotations on the side. This video could be very successful in a museum. But as a wake-up call to the general public, I think it would be more likely to fail.

The winning entry has everything in it so that people will feel engaged, whether they initially agree with the statements or not. That is so important if you want to grab peoples' attention without making them opposed to your proposals right away.

As far as I can understand from here at the other end of the pond, public opinion does have a role to play in American politics. (Lucky, if compared with countries where public opinion is simply oppressed.) The winning entry has a very good chance of getting into people's heads.

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:20:46 UTC | #923378

Borden.M's Avatar Comment 28 by Borden.M

Brilliant. Enjoyed every second.

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 10:43:30 UTC | #923405

0penM1nded's Avatar Comment 29 by 0penM1nded

Excellent rallying call....

The biggest message I got was Secularism is more important than Atheism, and I agree!

Watching any civil rights / Martin Luther King footage, I am always struck by the number of 'white people' that marched and stood strong for civil rights in the U.S.A. There are many similarities, and I think we need to get the 'moderate religious' on our side with strong separation of (any) church and state.

We are not tring to take the religion out of people, just out of our government, laws, and public institutions. I think religion is a great (but not only) source of community, provides meaning for many lives, and has many positives. It only seems to do any damage when mixed with government, law, taxation, schools, or other public institutions - danger never mix these two chemicals!

Focusing on real stories, real people, and real harm is an excellent approach, and we definitely need to take back the moral highground for secularists world-wide.

Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:15:53 UTC | #923465

Topomountain's Avatar Comment 30 by Topomountain

Wow. I just wish we had a Ten Point Vision in Australia. Well done.

Thu, 08 Mar 2012 01:46:45 UTC | #925259