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foundationist's Avatar Comment 1 by foundationist

The military coup in the Maldives seems to have worsened the situation in a country that was already far from being an open and pluralistic society. It seems that theocratic fashism is the new trend in the Maldives. Sad and tragic.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:44:05 UTC | #922059

Tony d's Avatar Comment 2 by Tony d

how sad

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:55:26 UTC | #922066

FishSci's Avatar Comment 3 by FishSci

Not just any Islam is the official religion in the Maldives, it is Sunni Islam exclusively, please. There is nothing tolerant about that one.

Sometimes I wonder, what'll it be for the Islamic world? Can there be only either a brutal Dictatorship that is relatively open to the west OR an even more brutal dictatorship by demented fundamentalist Muslims? Is there no in-between? We're looking at you, Egypt.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:57:07 UTC | #922068

TrickyDicky's Avatar Comment 4 by TrickyDicky

With the rise in religious fundamentalism it's getting hard to find a place to holiday in the sun.

Now the Maldives added to the list of no gos like Egypt, Tunisia, the southern states of the USA ...

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 13:57:37 UTC | #922069

aquilacane's Avatar Comment 5 by aquilacane

Islam is the religion of thugs and bandits. Were they bikers they would be Hell's Religion. Theocratic Fascism will be the new norm in most if not all of the Muslim world. Egypt will go the way of the wacko. I am ready to defend secularism against these goons, bring it on MFs.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:02:10 UTC | #922071

Luke_B's Avatar Comment 6 by Luke_B

It may seem melodramatic to some, but I think there are few crimes against humanity worse than the destruction of our history. What a sad, sad day.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:31:50 UTC | #922078

reason-first's Avatar Comment 7 by reason-first

It is an odd situation when you think that muslims all get into a rage when someone accidentally burns worn-out copies of their silly book, aka "the holy koran", but on the other hand they do not seem to mind when religious artefacts, hundreds of years old, are destroyed by a mad crowd of uncililized religious zealots.

Where are all the decent muslims, whose duty it would be to stand up against such mindless vandalism?

If religion keeps people from acting sensibly and rationally then religion must be ridiculed at every opportunity - all religion!

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:40:13 UTC | #922080

QuestioningKat's Avatar Comment 8 by QuestioningKat

Someone creates something with love, care, skill and devotion and someone else comes along and smashes it out of fear and the need to control and dominate. Such little minds and little people do these things.

Western museums beware, we never know when the spinner will land on us (again.)

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:40:21 UTC | #922081

potteryshard's Avatar Comment 9 by potteryshard

Hopefully word has been gotten out to the tourism industry so that people don't unwittingly vacation in the Maldives and inadvertently support this hateful and intolerant regime.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:53:02 UTC | #922083

Merco's Avatar Comment 10 by Merco

The authorities have banned photography of the damage, conscious that vandalism of this kind which echoes the 2001 destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha statues in Afghanistan by the Taliban is damaging for the nation’s image.

This attitude is childish and unhelpful. It is a part of the nation's image, whether it's damaging or not.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:59:42 UTC | #922086

Metamag's Avatar Comment 11 by Metamag

I make it a point to never spend a dime on any islamic country or product of that country. If only more people would do such basic decency.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:27:17 UTC | #922090

Metamag's Avatar Comment 12 by Metamag

Comment 4 by TrickyDicky :

With the rise in religious fundamentalism it's getting hard to find a place to holiday in the sun.

Now the Maldives added to the list of no gos like Egypt, Tunisia, the southern states of the USA ...

There is always Croatia and Greece.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:28:32 UTC | #922091

SomersetJohn's Avatar Comment 13 by SomersetJohn

Pretty much all we can do is keep hammering out what the moronic Islamists, and the government which at best cannot oppose them and at worst supports them at every opportunity. Try to persuade tourists not to give them their money, keep their crimes against humanity front and center.

These offensive parasites live off the money we, the west, keep giving them. How many Islamic countries lead the world in technology and innovation. (This is not a reference to any inferiority on the inhabitants part, it speaks to the poison of the religion itself.)

Cut off all aid and support until the priests of this evil cult are subdued.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:38:24 UTC | #922093

aroundtown's Avatar Comment 14 by aroundtown

The Maldives, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, the list goes on and on but the common thread with all these countries is the Islamic condition that always retains a footing in radical thinking. They keep saying their religious book teaches tolerance but I haven't witnessed that condition by any measure of the tape. They are crazy as crazy gets and the best you could hope for would be for them to stay in their own countries but no luck there either. They love to move around and take their fanaticism with them wherever they go. Isn't it funny that you never see them standup with one loud voice to challenge the difference between the supposed tolerance of Islam in opposition to radical actions of Islamist. It is painfully obvious that the objections never show up. If they don't want to be called crazy then maybe they should stop acting crazy.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:47:45 UTC | #922094

Vorlund's Avatar Comment 15 by Vorlund

Islam is peaceful and tolerant. Anyone who says different or otherwise criticises islam or does not agree to comply with its edicts in prostrate subservience will be threatened with or subjected to violence by its loony raving followers and without prejudice to anything they will also do to your property.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:55:27 UTC | #922097

ThePoeticAtheist's Avatar Comment 16 by ThePoeticAtheist

The Bamiyan Buddha bombings truly do echo in this latest attack. Mohamed Nasheed has been quoted as saying "If I leave the whole country will go to the dogs...I'm afraid I can't do that." Well, the dogs are out. Nasheed is truly a very kind and sensible man. One of my favourite journalists, Mark Lynas, is his environmental advisor. Nasheed has been at the forefront of climate change issues. He is truly a man to be respected if one cares about biodiversity and conservation. This is not only an attack on buddhism, but also a slap in the face of the democracy that Nasheed helped build so gracefully in his country.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:02:30 UTC | #922106

BasilBaker's Avatar Comment 17 by BasilBaker

" ...open practice of any other religion [in The Maldives] is forbidden and liable to prosecution."

Tolerant my bear behind!

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:14:53 UTC | #922110

Dirty Kuffar's Avatar Comment 18 by Dirty Kuffar

This should be in the national press, and a tourist boycott organised - these theocratic nazis should not get a penny more of our money.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:19:42 UTC | #922113

SheilaC's Avatar Comment 19 by SheilaC

Comment 4 by TrickyDicky :

With the rise in religious fundamentalism it's getting hard to find a place to holiday in the sun.

Now the Maldives added to the list of no gos like Egypt, Tunisia, the southern states of the USA ...

The Canary Islands are nice, and very varied -- something for everyone. Beach and booze in southern Tenerife or walking and stargazing on La Palma

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:54:37 UTC | #922129

AnAtheistBastard's Avatar Comment 20 by AnAtheistBastard

I think the first comment on the news channel says it best:

what can I say. While the US is making plans to colonize space, we imbeciles are breaking statues. We deserve our misery. May God give us more.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 17:55:27 UTC | #922130

Capt. Bloodeye's Avatar Comment 21 by Capt. Bloodeye

I imagine that sooner or later tourists will be attacked, and tourism will cease. I wonder what other sources of income these island have.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:58:11 UTC | #922148

huzonfurst's Avatar Comment 22 by huzonfurst

Global warming will have its revenge on the Maldives when rising sea levels will simply drown the place. Maybe muslimes will take it as a sign of disapproval from All-ugh.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:22:31 UTC | #922156

Explorer's Avatar Comment 23 by Explorer

Comment 22 by huzonfurst :

Global warming will have its revenge on the Maldives when rising sea levels will simply drown the place. Maybe muslimes will take it as a sign of disapproval from All-ugh.

Bring it on!

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:51:16 UTC | #922169

Mrkimbo's Avatar Comment 24 by Mrkimbo

Yeah, bring it on. They'll be begging for help from the infidel then alright.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:04:29 UTC | #922174

Zeuglodon's Avatar Comment 25 by Zeuglodon

My sympathies for the museum official: destroying priceless artifacts from the past is the closest my non-religious mind can get to the idea of desecration. I wouldn't call it one of the worse crimes, though, but I hope this is as far as it goes.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 20:12:11 UTC | #922180

PERSON's Avatar Comment 26 by PERSON

The Maldives were until recenty a dictatorship run by the torturing administration of Pres. Mamoon Abdul Gayoom from 1978 to 2008, who used the 2004 tsunami as an opportunity to clear all residents of various of the islands so they could be converted into resort complexes. There was a backlash, and he was ousted, but has very recently (8th February 2012) retaken power in an apparent coup.

The reason I mention this is that there is often a relationship between religions and oppressive regimes, as in Iran, wartime Germany, Italy and Japan, Saudi Arabia, Mubarak's Egypt (with an alliance between the MB, the security forces and parts of the army persisting even now) and so on.

Extremism can be used to keep people in line directly through its authoritarian aspect, or as a bogey man that people can be persuaded they need to be protected from, which also seemingly justifies a variety of oppressive measures.

I'm not clear when these measures were introduced: in the 1998 constitution, the 2008 one or earlier. A primary feature of the 2008 constitution was the creation of a more independent judiciary, but I'd think it's character would depend on the group(s) working against the regime, which I haven't a clear picture of.

Comment 22 by huzonfurst

Before the tsunami, that was used as an excuse for relocating people to facilitate tourism-oriented development projects.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:21:27 UTC | #922200

Border Collie's Avatar Comment 27 by Border Collie

Religion poisons everywhere ...

(Not that I consider Islam a religion, but whatever ...)

"Where are all the decent muslims, whose duty it would be to stand up against such mindless vandalism?"

Reason, you'll find those people with Bigfoot, Ancient Aliens, Superman, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus and my winning lotto ticket, m'k?

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:26:45 UTC | #922257

potteryshard's Avatar Comment 28 by potteryshard

Yeah, bring it on. They'll be begging for help from the infidel then alright.

Unfortunately, flooding the Maldives will simply result in hordes of Islamofacists relocating elsewhere carrying endless duffles of bullshit-laden bagage in order to poison the communities that wind up succoring them.

Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:56:31 UTC | #922274

isisdron's Avatar Comment 29 by isisdron

I'd imagine any Muslims who disagree publicly with any of this would be seen as traitors and met with violence. It's a tough choice to make, when you know exactly how brutal your brethren can become.

Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:00:45 UTC | #922277

Vitruvianman's Avatar Comment 30 by Vitruvianman

Between this, the Taleban and islamist government in Egypt, I guess the new commercial for tourism in Egypt should be: The Pyramids! See them while they are still there!

Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:31:50 UTC | #922287