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emastro's Avatar Comment 1 by emastro

Are human beings, as the peak of nature, sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world? That is the stance taken by Richard Dawkins, naturalist, biologist and atheist

Er, no, it isn't. Next question.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:21:05 UTC | #929259

Jarl Carlander's Avatar Comment 2 by Jarl Carlander

I might write a flea book. They seem to be in demand and easy to write, as all you have to do is something vaguely resembling typing.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:24:07 UTC | #929261

pinball's Avatar Comment 3 by pinball

“Is evolving Nature all there is.” - Yes plenty of evidence for this regarding life on earth the earth its self and our expanding universe.

“Are human beings, as the peak of nature, sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world?” – A bit dramatic but yes.

“Or is evolving reality derived from, dependent on and empowered by God, the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality?” – Zero evidence for this.

“Does this God reach out to humans as a person because humans are persons?” – Demonstrate god exists first and then we can discuss

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:25:45 UTC | #929262

tejas_gokhale01's Avatar Comment 4 by tejas_gokhale01

Are human beings, as the peak of nature, sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world?

Whats the evidence to believe this or to believe that Dawkins believes in this? Where is this coming from? I don't see any Dawkins' literature saying that humans are sovereign owners or masters. To say that would show a complete misunderstanding of evolution. Would it not?

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:27:43 UTC | #929264

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 5 by drumdaddy

What a shameless cheap marketing trick it is to hijack such a widely revered name as Richard Dawkins to draw attention to one's own stained pulp.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:28:06 UTC | #929265

Cartomancer's Avatar Comment 6 by Cartomancer

Written by a Nuernberger? Just following orders is my guess...

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:40:03 UTC | #929270

Vorlund's Avatar Comment 7 by Vorlund

Is evolving Nature all there is - a self-generated, self-propelled, and self-contained mechanism?

No it isn't all there is though it may be all that is life!

Or is evolving reality derived from, dependent on and empowered by God, the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality?

Excuse me? another pathetic specious argument from a bastard apologist. Let's take it one step at a time

a) prove doG then b) show it/she/he is the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality and that nothing else like Zeus, or Hirohito or Zoroaster or the FSM should be held responsible.

The philosophy that science doesn't explain all so there is a doG is getting rather fucking tiresome.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:46:26 UTC | #929273

Neodarwinian's Avatar Comment 8 by Neodarwinian

As radical feminists do these theocrats do not seem to know the meaning of the word refutation.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:53:39 UTC | #929276

peter mayhew's Avatar Comment 9 by peter mayhew

This would be funny if it wasn't trying to be serious. No wait, it's STILL funny. The cognitive dissonance that can be absorbed by otherwise intelligent people never ceases to amaze.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:00:18 UTC | #929278

Tyler Durden's Avatar Comment 10 by Tyler Durden

Or is evolving reality derived from, dependent on and empowered by God, the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality?

No, no, and no.

Next question.

Does this God reach out to humans as a person because humans are persons?

No.

Next question.

That is the conviction of the Christian faith and the stance taken by the author of this book.

I'm very happy for you but your wishful fantasies are exactly that, pure fantasy. Come back when you have more than just archaic myths to peddle.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:01:42 UTC | #929280

drumdaddy's Avatar Comment 11 by drumdaddy

The book is titled Richard Dawkins' God Delusion. Do lawyers have any opinions as to whether this amounts to a violation of copyright in an attempt to get people to purchase the wrong book?

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:13:27 UTC | #929281

Layla's Avatar Comment 12 by Layla

Shouldn't it be Richard Dawkins's God Delusion? The book wasn't written by a whole team of Richard Dawkinses.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:39:10 UTC | #929287

Robert1024's Avatar Comment 13 by Robert1024

It should be the repugnant refutation

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:41:28 UTC | #929289

Jos Gibbons's Avatar Comment 14 by Jos Gibbons

Are human beings, as the peak of nature, sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world? That is the stance taken by Richard Dawkins

No; that's more of a Christian stance. Richard Dawkins sees as not so much as uniquely masterful as uniquely responsible.

is evolving reality derived from, dependent on and empowered by God, the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality?

Prove a god exists, then we'll talk.

Does this God reach out to humans as a person because humans are persons?

Science proves prayer doesn't work.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:45:51 UTC | #929291

strangebrew's Avatar Comment 15 by strangebrew

They are so cute when they pout!

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:55:04 UTC | #929295

Stafford Gordon's Avatar Comment 16 by Stafford Gordon

Are human beings...?

It seems to me, that if you're religious, they are what ever you choose to believe them to be.

If on the other hand, you genuinely want to know, you'll stop pretending and making things up, and avail yourself of the knowledge science affords, lumps and all, and in the process, cease to be afraid of your own shadow.

Growing up is tough, but boy, is it worth it.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:57:58 UTC | #929297

hemidemisemigod's Avatar Comment 17 by hemidemisemigod

You can read a sample of this book here

See if you can get through it without wincing.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 15:30:32 UTC | #929305

Tyler Durden's Avatar Comment 18 by Tyler Durden

Comment 17 by hemidemisemigod :

You can read a sample of this book here. See if you can get through it without wincing.

According to Klaus Nürnberger:

"Genuine Christianity is not in the business of claiming ultimate truth or moral perfection for itself."

Unfortunately, the other 37,999 schisms are.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:07:28 UTC | #929314

Jumped Up Chimpanzee's Avatar Comment 19 by Jumped Up Chimpanzee

Or is evolving reality derived from, dependent on and empowered by God, the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality?

If the book doesn't explain what this "God" actually is, and by what mechanism it operates within this universe, it's a totally meaningless question.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:23:25 UTC | #929320

sbooder's Avatar Comment 20 by sbooder

Are human beings, as the peak of nature, sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world?

How many times dose evolution have to be explained before people understand it.

We are not the peak of nature, we are but one of millions of species, that are at a particular stage of evolution, we are not a result or an end but a mere moment in time.

Nor are we masters of our world, a quick look at natural phenomena like earthquakes, cyclones and tsunamis will show this.

By the way, are we meant to say “sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world” in a comical German accent?

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:42:09 UTC | #929325

HellFireFuel's Avatar Comment 21 by HellFireFuel

To quote Ronald Regan....

Male cow doo doo.

I wonder how many god botherers will read Richard Dawkins book to see where he went wrong.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:43:34 UTC | #929327

jel's Avatar Comment 22 by jel

Overview

Is evolving Nature all there is - a self-generated, self-propelled, and self-contained mechanism?

Pretty much, yes.

Are human beings, as the peak of nature, sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world?

Who said that humans are the peak of nature? Everything alive today is at the same stage of evolution, ie. They can all be traced back to common ancestors.

That is the stance taken by Richard Dawkins, naturalist, biologist and atheist.

Is it? Really?

Or is evolving reality derived from, dependent on and empowered by God, the transcendent Source and Destiny of reality?

Which god? Stop making the assumption that there is and only ever has been one god.

Does this God reach out to humans as a person because humans are persons?

As above.

That is the conviction of the Christian faith and the stance taken by the author of this book.

Until the author can show that their god (or any god) actually exists then any assumptions made about that god are pointless.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:02:12 UTC | #929333

SuedeStonn's Avatar Comment 23 by SuedeStonn

Actually I like to think that we are "sovereign owners and masters of their lives and their world", being on the top of the food chain and all. The peak of evolution? No, as pointed out we're still evolving, and will keep on evolving... but I'll let Klaus figure that one out (someday).

Does 'God' have anything to do with this? The day he comes down off his cloud and takes credit for it I'll say,"HALLELUJAH!" and get myself some Birkenstocks... not before.

non est deus

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:04:07 UTC | #929334

Grundibular's Avatar Comment 24 by Grundibular

That cover... The goggles! They do nothing!

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:49:58 UTC | #929345

robaylesbury's Avatar Comment 25 by robaylesbury

I'm writing a book challenging the existence of toilets. It's called "The Bog Delusion"

Wonder if Richard would be free to do the preface?

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:11:51 UTC | #929351

ZenDruid's Avatar Comment 26 by ZenDruid

Comment 6 by Cartomancer :

Written by a Nuernberger? Just following orders is my guess...

I thought a Nürnberger was a particularly delicious Bratwurst.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:23:58 UTC | #929354

old-toy-boy's Avatar Comment 27 by old-toy-boy

I would suggest that most of the comments here are from people who have not read this book, and could be considered as being unjust. Of course if one had read the book then they would be justified in leaving their opinions/comments on the Amazon website, The particular link is http://www.amazon.co.uk/Richard-Dawkins-Delusion-Klaus-Nurnberger/dp/1450059821/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1332353886&sr=1-7 (does that help?).

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:26:56 UTC | #929355

MilitantNonStampCollector's Avatar Comment 28 by MilitantNonStampCollector

Comment 27 by old-toy-boy

I would suggest that most of the comments here are from people who have not read this book, and could be considered as being unjust

Not really. One doesn't need to read a whole book of twaddle when a couple of sentences/paragraphs is enough to make a fair judgement.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:54:54 UTC | #929369

Mr DArcy's Avatar Comment 29 by Mr DArcy

Humans might be top of the food chain at the moment but fleas suck their blood. Something like 90% of the human body is made up of unicellular organisms! As long as life exists, bacteria and their ilk will be the masters of survival.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:57:52 UTC | #929373

mr_zero's Avatar Comment 30 by mr_zero

What a hideous cover! Do you think he designed it himself? I'm presuming this is self published.

Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:15:08 UTC | #929378