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mordacious1's Avatar Comment 1 by mordacious1

This would certainly change things if there was more proof, interesting to say the least.

Funny that the article was written by Gibbons.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:05:57 UTC | #945609

Robert Firth's Avatar Comment 2 by Robert Firth

"Petite primates" from Myanmar? I could have told you that - we get about 20 or 30 every year joining our diploma course.

Seriously, though - a great find. Makes one wonder just how hard or easy long-distance migrations were back then.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 00:11:03 UTC | #945612

Net's Avatar Comment 3 by Net

i think the writer means "burma" not "myanmar" ... "myanmar" is what the ruling military government renamed the country

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 02:00:43 UTC | #945625

Michael Gray's Avatar Comment 4 by Michael Gray

Comment 1 by mordacious1 :

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Funny that the article was written by Gibbons.

Did they use a million typewriters?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 05:32:16 UTC | #945642

adiroth's Avatar Comment 5 by adiroth

Comment 2 by Robert Firth :

"Petite primates" from Myanmar? I could have told you that - we get about 20 or 30 every year joining our diploma course.

Seriously, though - a great find. Makes one wonder just how hard or easy long-distance migrations were back then.

Just what's that first sentence supposed to mean? I'm curious.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 06:51:05 UTC | #945648

Rosbif's Avatar Comment 6 by Rosbif

Do I get a rebate on my "We're all Africans" t-shirts?

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:19:17 UTC | #945666

brighterstill's Avatar Comment 7 by brighterstill

I shrug off your "johnny-come-lately" primates - a mere 37 million years old. I insist we go back further to determine our real place of origin! And behold! We arose from the ediacaran fauna of British Columbia! We're all Canadians!

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:36:22 UTC | #945668

Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 8 by Cook@Tahiti

Not really human if it's 37 million years ago.

Anatomically modern humans are 200,000-250,000 years old.

Another sensationalist headline that 'overcooks' the conclusion.

Geography means less and less as you go back further in time as all the continents were together a couple of times and were moving about the entire planet.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:41:48 UTC | #945671

mmurray's Avatar Comment 9 by mmurray

Comment 7 by brighterstill :

I shrug off your "johnny-come-lately" primates - a mere 37 million years old. I insist we go back further to determine our real place of origin! And behold! We arose from the ediacaran fauna of British Columbia! We're all Canadians!

Pikaia eh ?

Michael

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:49:43 UTC | #945672

mmurray's Avatar Comment 10 by mmurray

Comment 8 by Cook@Tahiti :

Not really human if it's 37 million years ago.

Anatomically modern humans are 200,000-250,000 years old.

Another sensationalist headline that 'overcooks' the conclusion.

Geography means less and less as you go back further in time as all the continents were together a couple of times and were moving about the entire planet.

The headline says

An Asian Origin for Human Ancestors?

What's wrong with that ?

Michael

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 11:51:20 UTC | #945673

David-in-Toronto's Avatar Comment 11 by David-in-Toronto

Comment 10 by mmurray :

The headline says

An Asian Origin for Human Ancestors?

What's wrong with that ?

It might be technically/semantically accurate. But I think it somewhat connotes that the “out of Africa” hypothesis is wrong. At least, that was my first impression from the headline.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:33:04 UTC | #945695

cerad's Avatar Comment 12 by cerad

4 teeth huh? Sure hope they rules out the possibility that they were pig teeth.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 14:37:05 UTC | #945696

All About Meme's Avatar Comment 13 by All About Meme

Comment 6 by Rosbif

Do I get a rebate on my "We're all Africans" t-shirts?

+1

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:22:18 UTC | #945701

Cook@Tahiti's Avatar Comment 14 by Cook@Tahiti

Comment 13 by All About Meme :

Comment 6 by Rosbif

Do I get a rebate on my "We're all Africans" t-shirts?

+1 No rebate. Humans still come from Africa. Earlier species come from elsewhere. Who knows - the Cambrian explosion may have occurred at a point long subducted under some tectonic shelf.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:43:54 UTC | #945703

silentbutler's Avatar Comment 15 by silentbutler

Comment 7 by brighterstill :

I shrug off your "johnny-come-lately" primates - a mere 37 million years old. I insist we go back further to determine our real place of origin! And behold! We arose from the ediacaran fauna of British Columbia! We're all Canadians!

What a wonderful idea! And you make a very good point. Though I get that they're, for now at least, drawing the line at primates. When I had read the headline, I was expecting something along the lines of floresiensis, or the uprights form Georgia; the republic of that is. THAT would have made for bigger boasting for Asian descent. An interesting article for sure, but somewhat anticlimactic in the end...and the middle. As for an earlier comment, I wouldn't be donating my "We're all African" T-shirt to the Salvation Army just yet. The cradle of mankind is secure for now.

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 15:59:40 UTC | #945706

silentbutler's Avatar Comment 16 by silentbutler

Comment 11 by David-in-Toronto :

Comment 10 by mmurray :

The headline says

An Asian Origin for Human Ancestors? What's wrong with that ?

It might be technically/semantically accurate. But I think it somewhat connotes that the “out of Africa” hypothesis is wrong. At least, that was my first impression from the headline.

Same

Tue, 05 Jun 2012 16:01:48 UTC | #945707

Philoctetes                                        's Avatar Comment 17 by Philoctetes

This is virtually the same article:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/asia-africa-human-origins/

except that it also provides a map of the ancient continents of Africa and Asia, separated by the Tethys sea. Makes it hard to visualise the route taken by these teeth. This is what is so good about science, a little evidence and lots of creative thought and over the course of the next few decades the odd shovel in the right place will reveal more evidence which will support or negate the present conclusions.

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:22:28 UTC | #945933

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 18 by Alan4discussion

Comment 17 by Philoctetes

This is virtually the same article:

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/asia-africa-human-origins/

except that it also provides a map of the ancient continents of Africa and Asia, separated by the Tethys sea. Makes it hard to visualise the route taken by these teeth.

The map on the link, does show some rather wide areas of sea-water to be crossed in any migration, and adds these comments:-

Others agree that if both the new species of primates from Myanmar and Libya are indeed early anthropoids, they would greatly strengthen the case for the Asian origins of anthropoids. “If proven, the biogeographical significance of these results is profound,” says paleontologist Richard Kay of Duke University in Durham, North Carolina. It would show that there was a major migration of primates and probably other mammals between the two continents at a time when it was not easy to get across the ancient Tethys Sea that divided Africa from Asia. And for humans, it would suggest that our deepest primate roots were in Asia, not Africa.

Still, the similarity between the species rests on just four molars of Afrasia, Kay notes, although teeth are the most reliable way to measure relatedness. And some researchers have yet to be convinced that Afrotarsius in Libya is a stem anthropoid rather than an ancestor of tarsiers, primates that are not anthropoids and, thus, are more distant relatives. Kay, however, says the scales are tipping toward an Asian origin. “We’ve all heard about Out-of-Africa for human origins,” adds Beard. “Now we think there was an Out-of-Asia migration into Africa first.” - http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/asia-africa-human-origins/

Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:48:06 UTC | #945961

tejas_gokhale01's Avatar Comment 19 by tejas_gokhale01

Stormfronters would bolster their beliefs further on Asian tradition of immigration :)) :))

N.B. I am an Asian immigrant in 'west'

Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:59:07 UTC | #948502