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Rattlesnake's Avatar Comment 1 by Rattlesnake

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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:26:38 UTC | #946804

Macropus's Avatar Comment 2 by Macropus

This is profoundly depressing. 40,000 residents? I too had the vague idea that there were just a couple of small fishing villages there and a small tourist industry. Does anyone know what the government of Equador is doing about this? Do they know the intrinsic value of those islands? Are they afflicted with equatorial enervation?

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 04:35:37 UTC | #946805

PY's Avatar Comment 3 by PY

How bad can it be when the website providing this story allows the following google ads on the same page as their coverage of the issue:

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And you wonder why there is a problem? What hypocrates.

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 06:42:19 UTC | #946823

Rara192's Avatar Comment 4 by Rara192

Comment 3 by PY :

How bad can it be when the website providing this story allows the following google ads on the same page as their coverage of the issue:

Ads by Google

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Galapagos Cruises 50% Off Save up to 50% on Galapagos cruises Best price & service guarantee GalapagosCruise.com

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And you wonder why there is a problem? What hypocrates.

Allow it? Maybe they're not aware of it. As it says, the ads are "by Google"; not by them. They likely appeared automatically based on Google's own detection of keywords shortly after the article was published. If the website operators are informed, they could possibly filter them. I can't see them there now anyway.

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:58:28 UTC | #946849

QuestioningKat's Avatar Comment 5 by QuestioningKat

I recently saw a photo exhibit of black and white images of trees that were so large, that the diameter of most trees were the width of a small house. Upon examining a few images up close, I could see that many of the trees were covered with carved in initials and grafitti. I experienced the same sight in a cave in southern Ohio. Millions of years were destroyed by layering of grafitti and chiseled out by selfish and inconsiderate humans over the past 150 years. There is a part of human nature that is parasitic and feels a strong sense of entitlement. Protect and limit human intrusion to only a select few, and everybody else will feel that they should be included as one of the select few.

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:16:34 UTC | #946878

Capt. Bloodeye's Avatar Comment 6 by Capt. Bloodeye

"And you wonder why there is a problem? What hypocrates."

Don't blame it on the Greeks; they have enough trouble as it is.

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 16:33:07 UTC | #946891

chawinwords's Avatar Comment 7 by chawinwords

No surprises here. I was taught at a young age that man is the only animal that regularly craps in his own nest. Like it or not, with billions more humans expected, the whole planet earth is man's nest, and there is not much left that man hasn't already crapped upon.

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:04:59 UTC | #946907

PY's Avatar Comment 8 by PY

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Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:38 UTC | #946908

bluebird's Avatar Comment 9 by bluebird

"...the Galapagos could not foresee the evolution of humans".

Bernie Krause, famous for recording natural sounds of an area (or "biophony'), should make a CD of the Galapagos still pristine islands, if he hasn't already. Music to my ears.

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:34:44 UTC | #946936

Kim Probable's Avatar Comment 10 by Kim Probable

Comment 7 by chawinwords :

No surprises here. I was taught at a young age that man is the only animal that regularly craps in his own nest.

You haven't seen a pigeon's nest, then. ;)

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:07:39 UTC | #946943

Al Denelsbeck's Avatar Comment 11 by Al Denelsbeck

It's a really interesting issue that's been broached before. "Eco"-tourism is now a free-market enterprise, and the more people who hear about the wondrous Galapagos et al, the more want to go and experience it for themselves (and I say this as a nature photographer.) Almost none of these tourists would consider donating the cost of their cruise, and airline tickets, and continental accommodations, to the support of such fragile ecosystems and simply stay home - that's not as affirming.

The article even highlights the exact problem with our typical environmental approaches. For some unknown reason, despite the thousands of people visiting every year, just about every last activist effort involves sending yet another group of people to see it for themselves, to "bring back their unique perspective" (as if Marcus Coates couldn't dress up as a booby at home and promote his nonsense idea of social art that way.) How many people reached by such stories are actually motivated to support the efforts to preserve the islands with mere donations, and how many feel they have to hurry up and visit before it's too spoiled or even more species vanish? And for how many people does visiting confer some kind of social status, making them somehow 'better' than those who simply go to Disneyworld on vacation? Will it be necessary to make such visits social anathema in order to kill tourism?

Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:10:21 UTC | #946944

Roedy's Avatar Comment 12 by Roedy

All my life wanted to go to the Galapagos, but now even if I had the money, I would not go.

I wonder what someone like Stephen Spielberg to could do to create an experience as realistic as possible.

I once went whale watching and had to browbeat the captain to turn off the engine. I don't think he had any idea what he was subjecting the whales to.

I saw a movie about Darwin. What blew me away the most was such a short time ago, everything was pristine.

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 03:38:28 UTC | #946975

capetownian's Avatar Comment 13 by capetownian

I thought this might be an opportunity to bring to your attention another matter concerning the plight of an endangered species. As a regular supporter of Care2 Petition Site I recently received a request from their website to endorse a petition addressed to the people of the tiny island of Escudo de Veraguas. (off the coast of Panama). This island with its red mangrove swamps is home to the three toed Pygmy Sloth. It is estimated that 80% of the population has been decimated by human activity and there are only approx 100 survivors. Can I ask members of this forum to add their support to this petition?

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:55:57 UTC | #947005

Alan4discussion's Avatar Comment 14 by Alan4discussion

Comment 11 by Al Denelsbeck

It's a really interesting issue that's been broached before. "Eco"-tourism is now a free-market enterprise,

Eco-tourism has noting to do with conservation or protecting habitats. Even where some useful consevation work is done, the potential for bringing in invasive organisms and the pollution effect of trans-globe air flights, more than compensate in negative ways. It is usually a business with a fake PR eco badge stuck on it!

It is no surprise, that South American countries are very poor at conservation, given the religious and political backgrounds there.

Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:55:14 UTC | #947064