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mintcheerios's Avatar Comment 1 by mintcheerios

If she said something like that to a Muslim, her career would have ended on the spot.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:45:00 UTC | #148481

Monosilabbiq's Avatar Comment 2 by Monosilabbiq

Blimey ! It was difficult to follow the thinking behind the verbal attack made by Davis. The comments on other sites show that she has upset a lot of people within her own constituency.

Lets hope that democracy is seen to work.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:49:00 UTC | #148482

annabanana's Avatar Comment 3 by annabanana

[sarcasm]Right. I forgot that this was in the Official Atheist Handbook:

You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.

Looks like she really caught him.[/sarcasm]

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:50:00 UTC | #148483

Prankster's Avatar Comment 4 by Prankster

Democracy in action eh?

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:52:00 UTC | #148484

Pattern Seeker's Avatar Comment 5 by Pattern Seeker

As a native Chicagoan this makes me really sad...

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:53:00 UTC | #148485

Peacebeuponme's Avatar Comment 6 by Peacebeuponme

What a moron

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 09:54:00 UTC | #148486

Thor'Ungal's Avatar Comment 7 by Thor'Ungal

I forgot that this was in the Official Atheist Handbook


[sarcasm]
Of course, it right under the section that says "without god everything is permitted."

How can we build a religion devoted to the Lords of Chaos unless people pay attention to the scriptures.
[/sarcasm]

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:08:00 UTC | #148491

eXcommunicate's Avatar Comment 8 by eXcommunicate

Jeez, this lady was way out of line. To her I'd say how dare she be a Democrat with a philosophy like hers! I know some of you on this board dislike Obama, but he has never chastised atheists or demeaned the atheist point of view. You can have someone go to church for 20 years, yet still have respect for others, and then you can have a woman like this who (apparently) goes to church and has no respect for others. It takes all kinds. There are asshole theists and there are asshole atheists.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:12:00 UTC | #148494

Prankster's Avatar Comment 10 by Prankster

Is she complaining over the beliefs held by Sherman or the fact she got caught funneling all that money?

Seems she's thrashing around for an excuse and so turns on Sherman whilst playing the religion card to divert attention from her activities.....the plot thickens.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:14:00 UTC | #148496

al-rawandi's Avatar Comment 9 by al-rawandi

I was called a "piece of shit atheist" the other day.



The untiring charity of believers is what most thoroughly endears them to me.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:14:00 UTC | #148495

room101's Avatar Comment 11 by room101

The Chicago Tribune link provided above has the audio for this exchange...I recommend listening to it.

Davis is a certified nutjob - she starts off calmly and end ups wailing and berating this guy in classic "Sunday preacher" style.

I hope this gets more national airplay - people like her and Sally Kerns need to be weeded out and exposed (disposed).

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:15:00 UTC | #148497

RainDear's Avatar Comment 12 by RainDear

Once again, trying not to offend our American friends but ---

How is it possible for these idiots to get elected? What the hell is wrong with your country?

I know respectable secularist thinkers like Austin Dacey are strongly against calling these people American Taleban, but how far is this from them? Is public stoning really the essential difference? If an American politician harbours this much hatred against reason, justice and free speech, the middle ages are much closer on that side of the Atlantic than I ever thought possible.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:16:00 UTC | #148499

mejdrich's Avatar Comment 13 by mejdrich

Wow. I'm shocked. But also amused. To all you commenters, here, thank you. You just put a smile on my face.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:21:00 UTC | #148501

discipline's Avatar Comment 15 by discipline

As somebody on the Rational Responders site wrote: contrary to what this dimwit might think, Abraham Lincoln was an atheist (most of his life anyway). Here are some choice quotes:

"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them."
-- Abraham Lincoln, to Judge J S Wakefield, after Willie Lincoln's death, quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker."

“What is to be, will be, and no prayers of ours can arrest the decree.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Mary Todd Lincoln in William Herndon's Religion of Lincoln, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beleifs of Our Presidents, p. 118

“It will not do to investigate the subject of religion too closely, as it is apt to lead to Infidelity.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, Manford's Magazine, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 144

“The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Joseph Lewis in "Lincoln the Freethinker"

“The only person who is a worse liar than a faith healer is his patient.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, quoted by Victor J Stenger in Physics and Psychics

“Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes his aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not that we be not judged.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, sarcasm in his Second Innaugural Address (1865)

“It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, chiding the editor of a Springfield, Illinois, newspaper, quoted from Antony Flew, How to Think Straight, p. 17

“Oh, that [his Thanksgiving Message] is some of Seward's nonsense, and it pleases the fools.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, to Judge James M Nelson, in response to a question from Nelson: "I once asked him about his fervent Thanksgiving Message and twitted him with being an unbeliever in what was published." Quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 138

“The United States government must not undertake to run the Churches. When an individual, in the Church or out of it, becomes dangerous to the public interest he must be checked.”
-- Abraham Lincoln, regarding the Churches, quoted from Franklin Steiner, The Religious Beliefs of Our Presidents, p. 143

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:25:00 UTC | #148505

Silent.Bomber's Avatar Comment 14 by Silent.Bomber

Truly shocking, what is happening to the world?

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:25:00 UTC | #148504

al-rawandi's Avatar Comment 16 by al-rawandi

Oh and,



GO CUBS!

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:32:00 UTC | #148508

CanadAdam's Avatar Comment 17 by CanadAdam

You can email the bigot here: mdavis@hdsmail.state.il.us

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:36:00 UTC | #148510

adamd164's Avatar Comment 18 by adamd164

She should resign; but she won't. Instead, they'll praise her for standing up to us morally bankrupt aggressive atheist folk. That's what's most sickening.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:37:00 UTC | #148511

Diacanu's Avatar Comment 20 by Diacanu


it's dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists!


Haven't listened to the audio yet, does the crowd start barking "heil, heil, heil!!!", after that gem?

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:53:00 UTC | #148513

Clydey's Avatar Comment 19 by Clydey

Who on earth does that woman think she is? For a black woman, who has doubtless been on the receiving end of similar discriminatory remarks, to use that platform to highlight her own prejudice is, frankly, almost criminal.

I hope that hopelessly ignorant mental midget is held accountable for her outburst. She exhibits precisely the attitude that makes my blood boil.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 10:53:00 UTC | #148512

Clydey's Avatar Comment 21 by Clydey

Actually, she does get a few approving squeals from the flock. It was embarrassing and infuriating in equal measures.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:01:00 UTC | #148516

jmrunning3's Avatar Comment 22 by jmrunning3

Wow. I didn't realize I had given up my rights as an American.

Monique Davis seems to be from the same school of thought as Oklahoma's own Sally Kern. Both have lost the right to be called "representative", in my view.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:02:00 UTC | #148517

Oromasdes1978's Avatar Comment 23 by Oromasdes1978

How very interesting!

What really gets me is she actually sounded frightened of Sherman, she practically accused him of wanting to harm children ONLY because he had no belief.

It seems that a person could be the Baby Eating Bishop of Bath and Wells, but the fact that he is a religious man, that somehow exonerates him from being the one who is a real danger to kids!

The person who turns around and asks people to stop forcing religion down kids throats and its all "SMITE HIM!"


Methinks double standards and dangerous ones at that, why can't people tell the difference between being a complete bastard who happens to be an atheist and someone who is just an atheist? Is it really that difficult to comprehend that a lack of belief is just that, a lack of belief and that decisions and morality come from COMPLETELY different things!

SPLITTERS!
:)

Philip

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:03:00 UTC | #148518

SkyBlueJim's Avatar Comment 24 by SkyBlueJim

I see that she is backing Barak - can we expect him to denounce her in the same terms as he denounced Reverend Wright?

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/12/17/african_american_illinois_legi.php

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:04:00 UTC | #148519

TheSwede's Avatar Comment 25 by TheSwede

Diacanu:

No, but they bark "Amen, amen, amen!!!"

To all:
If this had happened in my country... By Thor's hammer! - there would be no end the the following debate, but there would be a very quick end to her career!

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:06:00 UTC | #148520

Styrer-'s Avatar Comment 26 by Styrer-

17. Comment #156357 by CanadAdam on April 7, 2008 at 11:36 am

You can email the bigot here: mdavis@hdsmail.state.il.us


While it would doubtless be satisfying to take her to task directly, I'd prefer to have the e-mail address of the person who can sack her forthwith for, at the very least, bringing the due process of the legislature into disrepute.

Any idea?

Best,
Styrer

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:12:00 UTC | #148522

CargoShip359's Avatar Comment 27 by CargoShip359

I know it's a small positive but the guy at the end seems okay : /

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:12:00 UTC | #148523

sarah95's Avatar Comment 28 by sarah95

The saddest part is not her incoherent hateful nonsense. It's the fact that her long off-topic interruption was not checked by the person in charge. In fact, when she'd finally finished, the person in charge THANKED her for "sharing her point of view" and then warned the atheist to stay on topic, and not to reply to the accusations made against his own personal character. It seems as though discrimination between religions can be outlawed and publicly chastised, but when religion makes an attack on lack of faith, it's just "look the other way."

The Reverend Wright lady needs to be sacked, and to take a constitution class, complete with biographies of Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, and Abe Lincoln.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:18:00 UTC | #148524

black wolf's Avatar Comment 29 by black wolf

Apparently Davis would welcome legislation to mandate a certain 15-20% minority of the population to sit in the back of the bus.
I'm glad that almost all commenters at Eric Zorn's blog (linked above) despise her conduct, apart from one presumably sarcastic all-caps yeller, one disgruntled man Sherman had successfully campaigned against, and one lapdogging Davis follower who didn't even attempt to formulate an argument.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:22:00 UTC | #148525

adk's Avatar Comment 30 by adk

How did she go from the issue at hand (government money going to a church) to atheists practically handing out guns to kids at school? Unbelieveable! Am definitely writing a letter or something.

Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:23:00 UTC | #148526