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Rawhard Dickins's Avatar Comment 1 by Rawhard Dickins

Evolution is just a branch of science, but if you bring matters of morality into the picture the same mode of thinking may well put students in a good position to make intelligent decisions without expecting guidance from imaginary friends.

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:40:00 UTC | #401361

The Washed's Avatar Comment 2 by The Washed

"I don’t expect that most people will have 45 minutes on a Saturday afternoon to listen to yours truly drone on about evolution, rationality, free will, and Robert Wright"

Perhaps not, but my Sunday afternoon is wide open! LOL

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:26:00 UTC | #401370

SHLOCKY's Avatar Comment 3 by SHLOCKY

File doesn't download (Question mark in blue circle appears even though I have Quicktime 7.6.2.

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:03:00 UTC | #401382

fsm1965's Avatar Comment 4 by fsm1965

i d/l it twice, got a zero kb file both times...

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:31:00 UTC | #401384

GandalfGrey's Avatar Comment 5 by GandalfGrey

Same here, quicktime file doesn't load.
And the download mp3 link doesn't work either.

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:33:00 UTC | #401385

GBile's Avatar Comment 6 by GBile

0 bytes in the download. Not very interesting.

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:42:00 UTC | #401388

mordacious1's Avatar Comment 8 by mordacious1


Thanks, that works, albeit with rubber commercials, but hey...


The deist god has been sitting around for roughly 13.8 billion years after the big bang without doing anything. :)

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:06:00 UTC | #401413

Mbee's Avatar Comment 10 by Mbee

Just listened to this.
I thought Jerry did a good job with some questions but there were others that he could have been much more definitive and really told the listeners the way it is. Missed a few good chances - but perhaps he was playing it low key for a reason.

I always like the 'well evolution is just a theory' question and the answer that it is just unfortunate that it might go against your world view but it happens to be true. ( So get used to it)

It should be compared with the Theory of Gravity. You cannot see gravity or may not understand the science behind how it works but it is obviously there!

Did not think much of Samantha Clemens.

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:10:00 UTC | #401416

Ajzzz's Avatar Comment 9 by Ajzzz

Talking about the importance of science education with adverts from anti-science anti-vaccination "autism speaks" scum.

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:10:00 UTC | #401415

mordacious1's Avatar Comment 11 by mordacious1

9. Comment #419593 by Ajzzz

Autism Speaks is not an "anti-vaccination" organization, although they do waffle a bit (in order to keep donations from certain parents coming in?) on the topic. Here is their stance:

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:34:00 UTC | #401420

Border Collie's Avatar Comment 12 by Border Collie

Wow, 'stay in touch and read' ... what a concept. I don't have time to read either, but I do, constantly. "I don't have time to read" ... translated ... "I'm too f'ing lazy and stupid to read" ... Maybe I should rephrase that.

Is this supposed to be some sort of enlightened radio talk show?

Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:17:00 UTC | #401432

Alternative Carpark's Avatar Comment 13 by Alternative Carpark

I think that one of the main reasons that evolution denial is so prevalent in the US is that people believe that it is the predominant view accepted by society, and that those who embrace evolution are merely some kind of lunatic fringe.

Perhaps more effort could be made to inform this section of the country that there are hundreds of millions of people, in the rational parts of the world, who have no problem whatsoever accepting evolution AND would be, quite frankly, amazed to learn that half of America does not.

Furthermore, these intellectually unevolved vegetables may be given pause by the knowledge that, by disregarding facts in favour of Middle-eastern fiction, they are aligning themselves with the very regions they, most likely, at best, disdain or, at worst, despise: the Islamic world, along with much of Africa and South America. Indeed, one could make the same case about religiosity in general.

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 00:16:00 UTC | #401440

alabasterocean's Avatar Comment 14 by alabasterocean

PLEASE PLEASE teach the controversy about everything - why not the controversy of not sending annoying radio hosts into deep space...

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:30:00 UTC | #401549

Sally Luxmoore's Avatar Comment 15 by Sally Luxmoore

Yes, we really need to stand up for the rights of flat earthers and alchemists

Edit: I'm not being sarcastic, I mean we should make a clear link between all these 'rights'.
Get them to try to find the difference between that and their suggestions.

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:42:00 UTC | #401551

exmike's Avatar Comment 16 by exmike

Link to listen working now.

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:50:00 UTC | #401592

Moq's Avatar Comment 17 by Moq

A good radio show with excellent answers by Coyne.

The host seemed rather impressed with his book, which I can understand.

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:01:00 UTC | #401604

Border Collie's Avatar Comment 18 by Border Collie

Jerry, you failed to mention tambourine shaking and speaking in tongues. Oh, and it's bible 'thumpers' or 'pounders', not Bible bashers ... that's us.

Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:50:00 UTC | #401668

Sue G's Avatar Comment 19 by Sue G

I think I didn't quite get the point he was trying to make on free will. Did he say everything was pre-determined, only we have to live and act as though it wasn't? How does that follow from a world view of scientific materialism?

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:06:00 UTC | #401708

robotaholic's Avatar Comment 20 by robotaholic

wow, this lady is crazy

and I love the fact of accepting evolution, not believing in evolution

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:36:00 UTC | #401715

robotaholic's Avatar Comment 21 by robotaholic

"there are a lot of people who say there are other ways of knowing" or "there are a lot of people who are believers"
This is the same statement that was told to Richard Dawkins in his recent talk show appearance.
how lame- what kind of stupid question is that-
I don't get the point.
Who cares how many people believe something- how does that qualify as valid?

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:45:00 UTC | #401717

rod-the-farmer's Avatar Comment 22 by rod-the-farmer

I thought the female host did a good job. After all, she DID invite him. She also gave him lots of opportunity to speak his piece, and not once challenged him with "How can you believe that sort of crap ?" questions.

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:45:00 UTC | #401729

maximus444's Avatar Comment 23 by maximus444

Dr. Coyne totally mischaracterized Robert Wright which is disappointing. Robert Wright gave a Google Book talk on his new book which was very good. It made me see the monotheistic faiths in a whole new way.

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:01:00 UTC | #401825

Moq's Avatar Comment 24 by Moq

She didn't seem crazy at all. The interviewer has to ask questions or add comments which her audience have, eg. the ridiculous "other ways of knowing" and the obviously true statement "there are a lot of people who are believers". Then Coyne responds to that amongst other topics.

It might be interesting to discuss parts of the book in greater detail, but it would be far less engaging for the listeners. That's the same issue as when Dawkins is interviewed and get questions about TGD instead of TGSoE.

Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:46:00 UTC | #401839