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Sean Faircloth:
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In comment #230678, princezephyr wrote:
It's clear that you don't yet understand what Darwinian evolution is. I'll refer you to a couple of starting points so that you can make some advances in that direction, but first, here's something you should try to keep in mind:
The theory (and fact) of evolution by natural selection has always involved a *component* of randomness; however, the "natural selection" part of it has always been understood to be very non-random. If that seems like a self-contradictory statement, if it seems like randomness would rule the day if randomness is involved at all, then think of a casino.
In a casino, the outcome of any individual roll of dice, spinning of a roulette wheel, shuffling of cards, etc. is pretty much random. But the casino consistently turns a profit, and it does so very non-randomly. That's because each game is set up in such a way that probability favors the house to win on average. Now please note, I'm not trying to say that evolution works like a casino. Instead I'm just pointing out that this is a case where randomness has a role to play (and it's a necessary role!) but it's not a *dominant* role: a casino is a relatively ordered system. And the same can be said of the role of randomness in evolution.
Secondly, please be aware that Richard *never claimed* that evolution was all about chance. (If you think otherwise, then please cite a specific instance that supports your suggestion and please let us know where we can find that quote.)
Now then, on to some linkage:
Here's episode 1 of Richard's most recent attempt to educate the masses on the basic idea (and some of the evidence---about as much as can fit into a short TV program on the subject):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MgpCDMukz0
Here's episode 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtwLtM07TL4
Here's a nice resource from UC Berkeley:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/search/topicbrowse2.php?topic_id=41
Now having said all that, I think your offer (to have Richard or someone else participate in a public discussion about evolution) might have been reasonable. But the format you suggest would be inappropriate: before you start to *debate* with scientists like Richard about evolution, your side really needs to do an honest job of *learning what Darwinian evolution is*. Now, if you were to suggest that Richard and other biologists conduct public lectures on the topic, that would be more interesting (and more productive).
Permalink Fri, 15 Aug 2008 06:49:00 UTC | #218467