Sally, my point had nothing to do with the facts that were presented. They were excellent.

But the in-between comments are not necessary. Like flipping the bird, and other condescending comments.

Here is the bottom line: if you treat another human respectfully, you will indeed get farther with your arguments than if you put them on the defensive.

When you say something insulting, the listener's mind focuses on that, and mulls it over, and all that is said afterward is missed.

A person whom I believe to be a good spokesman, is Sam Harris. He presents his arguments calmly, and respectfully.

And yes, I know for a fact, a non-atheist is more willing to listen to such a person. Would you rather discuss a point with someone who is insulting and condescending, or with someone who calmly and respectfully makes their points?

I would have thought this obvious to intelligent and reasonable people.