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Comment #439466 by keddaw

Also, if we stop all international air travel, all international trade and force countries to be self-sufficient do you think the population growth in the third world is remotely sustainable? Would there not be more wars and suffering without international trade?

Do you have anything to back up this claim (stop all international trade)? It's not clear to me that this is bound to happen with the proposals.

For example, cutting carbon output does not automatically equate to being self-sufficient. For example, New Yorkers sourcing their tomatoes *shipped* from the third world can incur less carbon-cost than having them delivered by *air* from California. Greenhouse raised produce in colder climes *might* be produced more carbon-efficiently when shipping from areas where the sun provides the heat.

I'd be interested if there are any studies on these sorts of issues.

Mon, 07 Dec 2009 16:20:00 UTC | #421002