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Comment #467408 by Friend Giskard
One can accept the fact of evolution on the basis of overwhelming evidence whether one believes in a god or gods or not, though believing both doesnât work out well. At best, the latter is extraneous; at worst, religious evolutionary biologists have to misunderstand convergent evolution in order to feel at ease. (Ken Miller and Simon Conway Morris have done this quite notably.)I noticed the same problem, so downloaded the WMV afterwards. It works fine.
Iâll critique the speakers when a transcript is available tomorrow to make it easier. I'll say now, however, that the creationist was a fascinating figure. On the one hand, he was infuriatingly evasive; on the other hand, it was nice to see a "Keep off science's turf, don't preach etc." stance being taken by a creationist for once, rather than being limited to the religious people whose beliefs are least at odds with science's findings.
They want my opinions; they can have it (on some of these questions).
âTranscendentâ is vague. In terms of believing in something unevidenced, like a god or gods, itâs a bad idea – letâs just leave it at that.
Thatâs a new word on me (try irreligion, researcher).
1. Whatâs so strident about saying âyour beliefs are silly for reasons A, B and C, and are not similarly defensibleâ? We say that automatically anywhere else. 2. Itâs one thing to spoil childrenâs fun. But what about adults believing in Santa Claus? What about them not only doing so, but also doing silly things (or calling for others to do so or to be legally required to do so or legally unable to do something OK) as a result? What about planning to get children to believe in it from now on, long into adulthood?
Teaching about it, yes. Teaching any of it as true, no.
1. There are sources for absolute morality besides gods. 2. There can be moral facts without morality being âabsoluteâ (at least under some of the more demanding definitions of that vague, slipper term). 3. Philosophers have considered several ways in which people can classify things as right or wrong without even meaning it in a factual sense, such as emotivism or prescriptivism. You will note these 3 points give conflicting ways to challenge this argument; there are many ways it could be wrong. Moral philosophy has no consensus yet as to which is right, but the claim the argument itself makes is pretty much rejected by all of them.
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