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"Happiness is not a reward - it is a consequence. Suffering is not a punishment - it is a result." -Robert Ingersoll
I find that this quote explains the situation well for a rational person, but in your case I would suggest bringing up a hypothetical situation where the woman herself is the victim of senseless violence.
If she continues her ignorant ravings just withdraw from the argument, she will never admit defeat.
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