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jac12358's Avatar Jump to comment 18 by jac12358

To be fair (and immediately I can sense the umbrage this comment will create, so please think first about what I am saying), atheists are guilty of this as well. Recently I recall there being a fuss over trying to prove to the rest of the world how charitable atheists are, the point being, I assume, that one does not need good old fashioned religious morality to be charitable. While I believe this is true, touting how much one donates to charitable endeavors is, or can be viewed as Francis Collins is by Coyne, as blowing one's own horn.

The ONLY difference is that with a charitable donation there is actual measurable/provable activity (i.e. the donation) and the medical research or other form of immediate aid and results it provides. In contrast to the prayer which can be lied about (is there a "prayer receipt?") and is actually doing nothing helpful whatsoever. So we cringe when someone makes a fuss over the pointless self-mumblings someone claims to be doing, especially on behalf of the "enemy."

Yet on the grounds alone of advertising either prayer or donations, the effect is simply to gain credibility in an argument or to try to improve the opinions others have of you.

So keep it private!!

If prayer is as effective as money, then it doesn't need an announcement to make it work. Or does it??? Possible the knowledge of being prayed for can have a sort of psychological psychosomatic placebo effect on the one being prayed for. But in that case the power is not in the prayer, but in the mind of the target. So a prayer need not actually be said, and thus prayer itself has not been proven to work.

Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:11:27 UTC | #525334