This site is not maintained. Click here for the new website of Richard Dawkins.


← Can Critics of “New Atheists” Please Read Some First?

Zeuglodon's Avatar Jump to comment 17 by Zeuglodon

Comment 13 by AtheistEgbert

Comment 11 by El Bastardo :

There is no group mentality in Atheism,

This is not a pantomime but oh, yes there is.

At the risk of sounding like a party pooper, El Bastardo, I agree with AtheistEgbert on this point. After a while, explicit and self-aware atheists tend to categorise themselves into a group. Human is as human does, after all.

Because I don't think new atheists are as rational as they think they are, nor do I think they are more ethical than the average Christian, nor any less politically naive.

Irrational and politically naive, certainly. It'd be like suggesting a cricket-player makes a good footballer - after all, if he wins in one arena, he wins in another, right? Ethical, I can't tell, but again there's probably not much difference among religious moderates and atheists and so on. The consensus seems to jog back and forwards, though, and is so warped by biases that it's probably safest to suspend judgement until something approaching a comprehensive analysis is undertaken.

While I applaud their promotion of science and reason, they have not worked out any rational ethics or politics, and that makes up the vast majority of their opinions.

I'm not sure that's true. I get the impression a lot of atheists also tend to gravitate towards certain positions, such as political liberalism, secular humanism, religious skepticism, and skepticism and secularism in general. I make no comment on the causal links between them, and I don't deny that you can get a mixed bag among an atheist crowd, but my hypothesis is that if you were to survey a large sample of the world's atheists, you'd get a conspicuous statistical leaning towards positions like the ones I've mentioned.

Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:47:01 UTC | #875086