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Layla's Avatar Jump to comment 7 by Layla

I think to a Christian, promising to love God is something like committing to be a good person. From their point of view, it makes sense to include it because, afterall, they're Christians and they're promoting their values from their own perspective, which I think they are entitled to do. Just as I think any group of people are entitled to set up an organisation in which they promote their own values, so long as those values are not a threat to the rest of us. I believe the form of Christianity promoted by these groups is not a threatening kind so leave them be I say. There's nothing stopping the rest of us from setting up our own secular versions.

Yes, a secular version wouldn't need to drive home the point that there is no God (nevermind promise to hate God - since when do atheists hate God?) because you're making a false analogy, afterall that is not one of our actual beliefs or values, it's one of the things we don't believe in. The Christians don't require the children to swear that they will not believe in fairies or reject Muhammed as a prophet I presume either. They instead focus on what they believe is central to their own beliefs. I don't find it difficult to understand even though I don't agree with them.

I'm not saying I think it would be a bad thing for the guides to become secular. But I'm not sure the rest of us have a right to banish Christianity from it. Let the change occur from within. Christianity will probably slowly become less and less common and as it does so overtly Christian "promises" etc will become less and less palatable to the people and eventually either the organisation will shrink, and seperate secular alternatives will grow in popularity or else the guides itself will metamorphise into a secular version of itself.

Tue, 22 Nov 2011 14:27:56 UTC | #892291