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Comment 11 by Tony d

The only killing in the bible that possibly be blamed on Satan is in the book of Job and is 10, however Satan was a servant of god at that time following the orders of God and God instigated a bet with Satan which started things.

I posted this on another thread recently.....

Of course there are a lot of sick and twisted individuals that hold Yahweh up as a role model too. Godly aspirations abound in woo woo land.....and that really is something else all things considered....a conservative figure for the number of deaths at the hands of that nasty piece of work gives a running total of 2,270,971, not including the victims of the Flood, Sodom & Gomorrah and in some of these cases, women and children e.g. the first born of Egypt.

Lot's wife for looking back 1
Er who was "wicked in the sight of the Lord" 1
Onan for spilling his seed 1
Pharaoh and 600 chariot captains (plus his entire army) 601+
For dancing naked around Aaron's golden calf 3000
Aaron's sons for offering strange fire before the Lord 2
A blasphemer 1
A man who picked up sticks on the Sabbath 1
Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (and their families) 12+ Burned to death for offering incense 250
For complaining 14,700
For "committing whoredom with the daughters of Moab" 24,000
Midianite massacre (32,000 virgins were kept alive) 90,000+
God tells Joshua to stoned to death Achan (and his family) for taking the accursed thing 5+
God tells Joshua to attack Ai and do what he did to Jericho (kill everyone) 12,000
Joshua kills 5 kings and hangs their dead bodies on trees 5
God delivered Canaanites and Perizzites 10,000
Ehud delivers a message from God: a knife into the king's belly 1
God delivered Moabites 10,000
God forces Midianite soldiers to kill each other 120,000
The Spirit of the Lord comes on Samson 30
The Spirit of the Lord comes mightily on Samson 1000
Samson's God-assisted act of terrorism 3000
"The Lord smote Benjamin" 25,100
More Benjamites 25,000
For looking into the ark of the Lord 50,070
God delivered Philistines 20
Samuel (at God's command) hacks Agag to death 1
"The Lord smote Nabal." 1
Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling 1
David and Bathsheba's baby boy 1
Seven sons of Saul hung up before the Lord 7
From plague as punishment for David's census (men only; probably 200,000 if including women and children) 70,000+
A prophet for believing another prophet's lie 1
God delivers the Syrians into the Israelites' hands 100,000
God makes a wall fall on Syrian soldiers 27,000
God sent a lion to eat a man for not killing a prophet 1
Ahaziah is killed for talking to the wrong god 1
Burned to death by God 102
God sends two bears to kill children for making fun of Elisha's bald head 42
Trampled to death for disbelieving Elijah 1
Jezebel 1
God sent lions to kill "some" foreigners 3+
Sleeping Assyrian soldiers 185,000
Saul 1
God delivers Israel into the hands of Judah 500,000
Jeroboam 1
"The Lord smote the Ethiopians." 1,000,000
God kills Jehoram by making his bowels fall out 1
Ezekiel's wife 1
Ananias and Sapphira 2

The amount of other suffering, if your going to believe in the Buybull as divinely inspired literal truth, on top of all that, must be astronomical. So you'll understand why the three characters you mention can be considered as very good role models in comparison with this Old Testament monster.

God however killed about 2.8 million people according to the bible

As you can see above, 2.8 million might be a very conservative figure if one considers in Noah's Flood for instance. I know, it never happened....but really what did? But the woo woo's believe it so it is on Gods hands. A few factors to consider....

The first of these is the acceptance that the flood was worldwide. This is made clear by the Biblical record repeatedly.

Secondly is the time frame from creation to the flood. A number of figures are available on this - even people like Newton and Keppler did their calculations and came up with similar time periods. The best known calculation is of course Ussher's time of 1656 years.

Thirdly, the rate of reproduction - using conservative figures of population growth based on the information provided in the Biblical record, then the figure arrived at would be around 7 Billion people.

Source: Henry M. Morris The Genesis Record: Baker, Grand Rapids,1976. p 143-144.

Stop laughing at the back. The figure of 7 billion seems fanciful I know, but remember, folk in those days lived into their 800-900's..it was only after the big clear out of the Flood that God clipped the life expectancy to 120 years. Even though a generation was made 40 years.

Population of the PreFlood World

Although it is difficult to obtain an actual value of world population at the time of the flood, 5 to17 billion people would appear to be reasonable populations, with an average of around 10 billion. The best ages for childbirth would be 80.8 to 92 years with 6 to 7 children per family. This would be 20 to 18 generations produced from Adam to the Flood in 1656. The Book of Genesis indicates (Chapter 5) that each family had at least 5 children. Adam and Eve had a total of 7 (including Abel). However, Noah apparently had only 3 children. (It is possible that he could have had sons and daughters that aren't recorded and who weren't on the ark.)

Stop sniggering you lot, some serious research was carried out here. This man Morris and others took this stuff very seriously indeed, so if he estimated his God wiped out 7 billion...who am I to disagree?

Henry Madison Morris (October 6, 1918 – February 25, 2006) was an American young earth creationist and Christian apologist. He was one of the founders of the Creation Research Society and the Institute for Creation Research. He is considered by many to be "the father of modern creation science." He wrote numerous creationist and devotional books, and made regular television and radio appearances.

So all things considered, Satan ain't such a bad egg....morally speaking.

LOL those Christians are such crazy mixed up kids.

Indeed they are....and I'm being militant in some eyes for calling it crazy...go figure.

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:28:05 UTC | #921468