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Comment 41 by Schrodinger's Cat :

Comment 14 by gr8hands

Personally, I don't think that peopel who don't believe in free will (because of belief that a deterministic framework precludes it) have really really really thought through the inevitable conclusions of their belief. It isn't pretty. It smacks of Calvinism.

It's nothing to do with belief. It is entirely possible to show logically and rationally that the concept of free will that most people think of is nonsense....

Free will is an oxymoron. The reason being that the 'will' part must by definition involve causality and thus must involve determinism. Thus you cannot exercise your 'free' will without using the very determinism that negates the 'free' and makes it meaningless. This is absolutely inescapable and impeccable logic......and as far as I can see, a proof that free will does not exist.

Can you break the following down a bit for me?:

"The reason being that the 'will' part must by definition involve causality and thus must involve determinism."

What exactly is 'will'? (not being a smart ass or anything, just trying to understand)

Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:37:17 UTC | #923638