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Sean Faircloth:
Attack of the Theocrats!
Yes; he’s a human, which makes him an African ape, which makes him a primate, which makes him a mammal, which makes him a chordate, which makes him animal, which makes him a eukaryote.
This happened several years ago. I thought journalism was meant to be a synonym for “news”.
Given that “intuitive” doesn’t mean “real”, how do we know Professor Dawkins didn’t intend this?
What does “obvious” mean? That we shan’t get any real case for what is allegedly “certainly” true.
How do you know? Only by insisting on a definition of apes that excludes humans. Biologists define groups cladistically, i.e. so as to include their descendants. Even on a “gradistic” definition based on organisms’ properties, it was an eighteenth century creationist, Linnaeus, who first realised humans have to be considered primates for anatomical reasons. Creationists (unlike real scientists) use words to mean whatever they feel like. The “these fruit flies you saw evolving are still fruit flies” complaint insists on classifying creatures in the same group as their ancestors, yet these same creationists won’t acknowledge this makes us apes. The reason evolution yields diversity is because individuals may be in smaller, internal groups to which their ancestor never belonged, making these groups new.
I can credit it; I’ve seen the overwhelming evidence for it. Truth may or may not “demean” those who dislike what it turns out to be, but there is no longer any room for doubt that humans and other modern African apes share ancestors that were also African apes. Octopus intelligence may be high, but that doesn’t make it an insult to our cephalopod friends to note they are molluscs.
Blasphemy is a victimless crime. Note every complaint here is of the form, “This claim hurts, so I won’t accept it”. That’s not how you work our what’s true.
If arrogance can consist in a bad attitude regarding the source of one’s gifts as well as their extent, surely it is more arrogant to think a universe containing tens of billions of trillions of stars was designed purely for the benefit of one ethnic group in one’s species. Yet this is the foundational claim of all Abrahamic religions. Why is Professor Dawkins so smart? Because he inherited the right genes to get a good brain in embryological development. Why is he so accomplished? Because he also had excellent educational opportunities with which to put his brain to good use. Imaginary deities had nothing to do with this; Yahweh is no more real than Thor.
“X says Y” doesn’t imply Y is true, neither for an X of one’s choice nor in general.
Hundreds of millions of atheist men such as Professor Dawkins are counterexamples to this. So Calvin is empirically proven to be wrong; this isn’t a matter we can continue to “debate” in op-ed pieces.
Stop calling things “obvious”; provide evidence they are so.
I’d have to know it before I could forget it, which means evidence for it would need to be provided. Get on with it!
Not only do they come from animals; they are animals. Let’s look at the facts: they are multicellular organisms whose cells contain eukaryotic nuclei, and they obtain nutrition from other organisms. That makes them animals. The definition of animals doesn’t have an “oh, and is also stupid” clause tacked on the end. If it did, where would the line be drawn anyway? I’m not saying there are non-human animals smarter than Kohlmayer, but this piece of his didn’t set that bar very high.
What does “acting like animals” even mean? The animal kingdom, of over a million known species, has a great diversity of behaviour. Ants have agriculture. Elephants mourn for their dead. Many animals exhibit reciprocal altruism and restrain themselves when they face their enemies. Are these not traits worthy of praise? The behaviour humans are most likely to exhibit when learning something must, by definition, be whatever those aware of such things in fact do; and nothing specific has been shown to be wrong with the behaviour of humans who accept the fact of evolution, compared with that of other humans.
That’s not even grammatically correct. Did he mean “those yearnings”? Well, prove they are so implanted. In fact, provide any evidence of a god at all.
I have a better idea: teach them love and respect for those we know to exist in the life we know we have.
No; they are a product of mutation, genetics, evolution by natural selection and the British education system in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s.
Prove something you say!
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