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GolgothaTenement's Avatar Jump to comment 27 by GolgothaTenement

Actually what you said was that it's immoral because it supports cartels and violence. But what supports cartels and violence is the illegality itself, ie making a black market, ie prohibition of alcohol.

And you also said it's bad secondarily because it harms the user, but you forget a) marijuana is less harmful than alcohol or cigarettes and b) fast food, dangerous sports, excessive desert, etc, all harm the person partaking, but we don't outlaw those or even consider them immoral.

Get your nanny state out of people's lives. Marijuana will be legal, regulated and taxed in North America by 2020, and a more reasonable attitude toward other drugs isn't far behind.

If you don't like your son using marijuana, that's a family issue not a political one. Who's responsible for the massive, horrible problems in Mexico - teenagers who smoke pot, or the politicians who launched the war on drugs in the first place and created a black market of unprecedented size (Sam Harris cites 8% of all international commerce). A Mexican friend related a saying they have there to me: "Mexico - so far from God, and so close to America." They all know that American policy is the root of their problem, hell a bunch of South American leaders just told Obama that recently.

PS: If you think there is some kind of philosophical line between pleasure processed into the brain due to a substance the state doesn't approve of and pleasure processed in the brain due to a substance the state does approve of, or food, or sex, etc, that's ridiculous. The only principle that could possibly be applied is that pleasure shouldn't be allowed if it doesn't increase the chances of survival or gene-perpetration (after all, pleasure is a reward meant to encourage an organism to do those things), but then you have to outlaw alcohol, cigarettes, masturbation, TV, video games, caffeine, porn, anything simulated at all, and ignore the fact that non-human organisms stimulate their reward systems as much as they can (monkeys and birds with alcohol for example).

Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:04:02 UTC | #937859