Comment 15 by Nordic11

@amos

Tell me, what do YOU think the common ground might be?

Here's a few ideas. We can talk to each other with respect, patience and kindness and avoid condescending language, ridicule and mocking.

I find that very difficult after a certain point in the discourse Nordic11. Some people are not interested in listening to challenges made in respectful, patient, kind....but above all rational manner. Preaching, then running when the heat is on, being the preferred method of debate....let's avoid the awkward questions, eh?

Both sides need to learn this lesson (myself included).

Try a few of these recent threads for examples of the religious being respectful, patient, kind....but above all rational.....then ask yerself, "why would any sane person have any truck with the asinine bollocks that cultivates such rottenness?"

http://richarddawkins.net/discussions/646165-religious-doctor-denies-medicine-for-hiv-positive-gay-man

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/646411-police-in-sanal-s-house-to-arrest-him

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/646387-born-evil-that-s-what-the-mormon-church-taught-me-as-a-brown-and-female-child

...and as for condescending, ridiculing and mocking...anyone that has any part of the belief that these lunatics have,...

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/646420-richard-dawkins-on-radio-ulster-causeway-centre-gives-creationist-view

...are fair game and deserve everything they bring on themselves.

We can also keep pure science in science classes and reserve naturalism and creationism for other venues such as philosophy class.

I rest my case. I want to keep bollocks away from children period. You think there is a place for bollocks in the education of children. A teacher, a teacher of science no less. Where do you want the "Stork Theory of Reproduction" or "The Flat Earth Theory" or the Scientology theology that says...

"Xenu was, according to the founder of Scientology and science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard, the dictator of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of his people to Earth in a DC-8-like spacecraft, stacked them around volcanoes and killed them using hydrogen bombs.

I know....bloody ridiculous isn't it? Deserves nothing but the piss taken out of it. How could people be so feckin' gullible, right? Those few examples are the tip of the iceberg. Just which creation story do you propose taught in a philosophy class? How long a school day do you propose in order for all this nonsense to be taught?