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Comment 225 by Steve Zara :

What I do believe in ironically comes from your own causal chain. It is self evident and stands out like a sore thumb. If the entire chain must be physical, then, inescapably, awareness must be physical too. That is to say, awareness is a physical thing in its own right.

OK then, how does it result in knowledge about itself ending up in your words? This is where physical dualism, non-physical dualism, supernaturalism, panpsychism and so many other philosophical positions fail. They fail to show how we can have knowledge of them.

I have a computer that can print stuff out but it has no scanner or ocr software so it cannot read the stuff. It can print out a spreadsheet and then print out the message 'This is a print out of a spreadsheet'. It can go on and then print out a pie chart based on this information and print out 'This is a print out of the a pie chart based on the print out of the spreadsheet'. Now just how did the printout's knowledge about itself get into the printout?

Sun, 22 Jul 2012 11:16:15 UTC | #949818