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Go to: Abortion needs to be taught in our medical schools

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In the last couple of decades, thanks to science, premie babies can be saved earlier and earlier. Now as early as 24 weeks gestation but I've heard of twins that were born on week 22 and survived (and let's not get into the "what kind of life will they have" question, let's assume that science will deal with that too in the upcoming decades). Let's also assume that science will be able to push this limit further and further back and if that's the case we will very soon get to the point where one can legally abort a baby that is further along then another, premature baby that is being saved by extensive medical care. And that, my friends, will be a bizarre situation, don't you think?

I don't follow this line of reasoning, the big abortion question is do women have ownership of their own wombs, I would argue that they absolutely must do.

I can imagine a future in which it may be possible to extract a bundle of cells shortly after conception and have that bundle survive to adulthood, I can also imagine that it may be possible in the future for someone to come up with a way to make cell "A" perform the functions of cell "B" and it would be possible to make babies by just about any combination of viable cells, so what?

We all know that in many ways all cells and all life is "the same thing" but a bundle of cells that may one day become a person is not the same thing as a person.

Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:46:53 UTC | #949162

Go to: Why do we find mountains beautiful?

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The big problem here is there is no way to know whether people are born with a sense of wonder and beauty about specific things or if we are programmed by society to find beautiful those things that are presented as such.

It's the nature v nurture argument I'm afraid.

Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:13:01 UTC | #948838

Go to: Abortion needs to be taught in our medical schools

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I have noticed a distinct lack of websites advertising "Abortion parties" where pregnant women can get together over a few glasses of wine and have a great time killing their unborn offspring.

Could it be that it isn't the easy breezy fun thing to do that some would have us believe?

That those who elect to have an abortion for whatever personal reasons compel them probably feel rotten about it and don't just waltz on to their hair appointment skipping with joy?

LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE.

Why should anyone be given the right to force others to have children they don't want, let women l decide for themselves.

It is not inconsistent to say that if abortion is immoral then so is contraception, both do exactly the same thing deny the "right" to life to potential people.

Women must have ownership of their wombs.

Anything else is just plain wrong.

Sun, 08 Jul 2012 11:15:10 UTC | #948755

Go to: Primary school indoctrination (UK)

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@ sheepcat: Is this a public school? If so, I don't understand how religious views can be taught in a public school. If it is a private shool, then can't the school invite anyone they want to speak with the students? I'm confused

Yes it is a normal state school, it is worth noting that collective worship is compulsory in schools in England and Wales, see below for a link to e petition to challenge this in parliament.

http://www.assemblywales.org/gethome/e-petitions/epetition-list-of-signatories.htm?pet_id=617link text

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/2086link text

I have signed the Welsh petition as I think this is a bit Victorian but I have far more of an issue with the play and this type of Brand marketing.

Sun, 08 Jul 2012 10:09:42 UTC | #948750

Go to: Primary school indoctrination (UK)

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Sure, we live in Wales, our kids go to a typical Welsh primary school, we were not consulted as to whether or not we would like our kids to be exposed to the play.

In the comic it is stated that God made all the animals as they are today.

Two of the characters in the play appear in the comic that is given out to the kids and hint at the fact that they are really angels not humans.

I say I find it sinister because it is Christianity painted as fun and hip, it certainly doesn't read like it is offering a certain view of the world that some people might believe, creation is stated as fact as is everything else claimed in the comic.

It annoys me most because school is not the place to claim that any particular ideology or religion is the right one to live by, esecially not to 5 year olds.

Thu, 05 Jul 2012 15:52:20 UTC | #948614

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