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spellingmastake's Avatar Jump to comment 192 by spellingmastake

irate_atheist


ok troll, i tried my best to have proper discussion with you. Weird how someone who is obviously so intelligent as yourself can be such a prick. You would think you would have more class.

Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:02:00 UTC | #444316

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rate_atheist

"Yes, you probably would have more luck convincing a parody of an imbecilic priest. Doesn't do your case many favours, does it?"

Nice come back I will give you that.

My points are not nonsense. You may think homeopathy is nonsense but i believe the points i were making were decent.

Someone brought up the word faith to describe people who use homeopathy. I explained that the only faith you need is in your ability to tell whether your symptoms have improved or not after taking the remedy. And everyone starts throwing this word faith back in my face comparing me to a religious fanatic.

I tried to argue that just because something is not considered proof for anybody else, that person is not irrational for thinking it's enough evidence for them to continue taking it. Then someone quite helpful replied "that's no proof at all mate".


Look at that guy who appeared to be a scientist who stopped by here earlier. He said he has seen three members of his family cured with homeopathy, but he thought he was irrational for even considering for a spit second that there might be something to it. I think it would have made him irrational if he didn't consider it.

I also tried to point out that conventional medicine can cause a great deal of suffering and somehow i'm breaking the "Red herring" rule. That's crap, we were talking about all sorts of aspects about homeopathy, not just how affective it was.

Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:59:00 UTC | #444313

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irate_atheist

You have quoted me correctly but failed to understand the meaning of any of the points i have made. I could go through each of your points but i'm starting to think maybe i would have more luck explaining it to the character in your picture.


Quetzalcoatl

It's been quite a while since i took that first drop when my symptoms were at their worst. It may not have been instant and i may have exaggerated the speed of it working in my mind but i would definitely say it was at most just few minutes.

Why not take the homeopathic remedy i took, on a regular basis and see whether it will slow down your thyroid. I would recommend quite a high potency and just taking a drop every few days.

I know recently there was a protest outside of boots where they tried to overdose on homeopathy, but they had taken no notice of how homeopathy is meant to work as taking whole bottles of pills would be only like taking a lower potency.

Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:26:00 UTC | #444298

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Comment #464103 by irate_atheist

VERY helpful thank you bringing such wisdom and insight to this discussion.

I would not trust the judgment of an internet troll who only posts to insult people.

Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:29:00 UTC | #444281

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Quetzalcoatl

"Could you answer my question in 154 when you have a moment please? "

The answer to that question can be found in several posts i've made. I got into great detail in my first post.


"How can they distinguish this? It reminds me of religious people saying that they can tell that their feeling of God being with them is "not just a feeling". "

I think that comparison is a lazy one. Well people can obviously tell whether their suffering has eased i would hope you would agree with that. So whether it is placebo or not, there would be many ways to truly test this if they wanted to. But say you have suffered from headaches for many years and you've tried all the usual medications and still no relief (this is about the time most people look into alternative therapies) if their headaches go away after taking the homeopathy, then i think that person would likely come to the conclusion that homeopathy has helped. If it hasn't helped and it was simply a coincidence that they were cured at the exact same time as trying homeopathy then who cares, they are cured they can get on with their life again.

If someone's headache went away at the same time as taking a headache pill i very much doubt you would compare them to a religious person thinking they could feel god for thinking the pill had worked.

Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:04:00 UTC | #444276

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