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Go to: Tennessee Passes ‘Monkey Bill’ To Teach The ‘Controversy’ On Evolution And Climate Science

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They sure like wasting money on litigation.

Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:08:16 UTC | #929956

Go to: The Lord’s Army Comes to America’s Public Schools

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I finished the book a few days ago. It's certainly worth a read. I think Stewart framed the issue correctly, wanting us to be on our guard, but careful to also stay away from hyperbole.

It surprised me that in my ultra-liberal college town, one of the local schools does indeed have a GNC. Good thing my daughter is in Montessori!

Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:07:15 UTC | #929955

Go to: Growing use of Sharia by UK Muslims

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How do you determine the women is there voluntarily in a divorce case? Perhaps the fact that it is opposed by the The Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organisation (IKWRO) might suggest that all is not entirely well with the process

No doubt. But if, like a Catholic annulment or a Jewish get, she also needs a civil divorce, she'll still have her day in civil court. You can't prevent her using a sharia court without also preventing Catholics from annulments or Jews from getting a get. And there's no reason to (to this USAian's mind). If she isn't getting an Islamic divorce of her own will, then there's nothing we can do about that. But she can still have her say in a British court (or US court).

By the way a Catholic annulment does not have any affect on the civil status of the marriage as far as I can ascertain. A Catholic couple who have obtained an annulment are still married in the eyes of the secular law.


Of course they're still married. That was my point: if I wish to get an annulment from a priest (or whoever) on top of my civil divorce (or an Islamic divorce in addition to my civil divorce), why do you care?

Thu, 19 Jan 2012 03:51:35 UTC | #909697

Go to: Growing use of Sharia by UK Muslims

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I have no problem with people using a mediator they find preferable, whether that mediator is an imam, a rabbi, a priest, or their buddy Jacko down the pub. I have no problem with people seeking a religious divorce (presumably in addition to the civil one). As long as all this is voluntary, it doesn't take the place of criminal courts, and it doesn't preclude seeking civil remedies, why not? We allow Catholics to get annulments and Jewish divorces. If this is all in the same vein, I don't have a problem with it.

Tue, 17 Jan 2012 02:45:32 UTC | #909045

Go to: Gender Segregation Row Splitting Town

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Keep in mind that these thugs are a tiny percentage of even the Ultra-Orthodox. They don't represent Israeli society as a whole (which is mostly secular) for sure.

From what I've read, there is more to this story: it may not be so much that the little girls are dressed too... provocatively? (what are these bastards, pedophiles?), but rather that this school, which was built by and for the modern orthodox neighborhood next door, is something that the Ultra-Orthodox want for themselves. Apparently, when it first opened, they were breaking in and trashing it every night.

In other words, thugs. Has nothing to do with the length of a hemline.

Having said that, I do wonder why religious guys of so many religions think it's the woman's job to keep them from having "impure" thoughts. Maybe they should poke their eyes out, huh?

Wed, 28 Dec 2011 04:13:07 UTC | #903200

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