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Galactic Lord Xenu posted: What concerns me is whether faith is "abusive" to children as it is irrational, and teaching children faith-based ideas is no different from having them grow up to believe the world is flat. Is it abuse to teach children in a cult that they must serve their charismatic cult leader or God will kill their family? Is it abusive to let children grow up and be subject only to Scientologist education?
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There are many forms of childrearing that fail to prepare children for life in the greater society they may find themselves in adulthood. In Israel children of Haredi families hardly receive any education in basic secular areas such as mathematics, geography, science, foreign language, beyond the level of 4th-5th grade. Young adults who want to leave this environment have a huge problem with lack of job skills. OTOH for 2 or 3 generations children raised collectively on Israeli kibbutzim were ill-prepared for more typical family life. How do we balance people's freedom to explore different ways of life with the rights of children not to be forced out of mainstream society?

Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:15:00 UTC | #13719

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Vadjong, fortunately they are waiting for the messiah to come and reinstitute the courts that will have the authority to sentence people to stoning.

Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:13:00 UTC | #13432

Go to: Woman beaten on Jerusalem bus for refusing to move to rear seat

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Regarding swimming pools, the proportion of segregated vs co-ed swimming times - that would depend on demand. At the Weizmann Institute of Science, (during the 90s when I was a student there) the pool (privately owned) had segregated hours at the end of the day (21:00 to 22:00, IIRC) and an hour in the mid-morning of weekdays - low traffic times. I suppose places with a higher proportion of religious public have more segregated hours, in more popular times of the week.

Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:34:00 UTC | #13314

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Luthien, your post mistakenly attributes a quote from DavidJMH to myself.

Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:50:00 UTC | #13296

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To Katana (comment #3): Having lived as a secular woman in Israel until the end of 2000, I haven't run into much sex segregation outside of religious institutions. Some schools have sex segregated sports/physical education classes and sex segregated crafts classes. Sport teams and clubs outside schools are usually single sex. On the other hand secular youth movements, including scouting, are co-ed.

There is at least one beach that is sex segregated. It serves both the pious and those interested in single sex skinny dipping.

The story is different for people living in highly religious communities, with segregated education at least at the highschool level, and for some also at the elementary level.

In this story one thing that bothers me is the policy of the Egged bus company, as a service provider with a monopoly in most parts of the country. I wonder if there are non-mehadrin alternatives for people who wish to travel by public transportation in these areas. (At least the city of Haifa and its environs still have Egged buses running on Shabbat.)

Fri, 29 Dec 2006 12:49:00 UTC | #13295

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