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rengdahl,
I was an optimist and I've voted democrat since I turned 18 (I'm 29 now) but I just don't see that path working. The American people voted the dems into congress and have gotten nothing back for it so I would like to see some evidence of change as Obama promises. He himself has watered down his stand so much that I really don't see him being anything other then another corporate whore or as stated before a slight variation of McCain. The overly optimistic attitude you have is just like the religious attitude of "god will save us" while they watch their brothers and sisters die from some force, natural or human and do nothing. So good luck but I would say wake up you live in a corporate oligarchy not a democracy, the power is nowhere near the people. I can't think of one place where a drastic system change/clean up has occurred through working within a corrupt and broken system. The only way is to flush it all away but yes you are right Americans are way to into the consumer culture to give a fuck about actually getting of their arses and changing things in such a drastic way. You call it stability I call it brainwashed. :) I guess time will tell which is more accurate.

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:28:00 UTC | #226513

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SamKiddoGordon,
I wouldn't call your comment racist (there are muslims of all colors including white) but I would call it too generalized as you can't really categorize all muslims in one group other then that they are muslim. Also there are other religions living in the regions muslims live and they are of the same ethnic group but different religion. So your comment is not racist but it is useless, that sounds too harsh, lets say not useful. ;) I also wanted to mention that there is cross breading going on with muslims so that would be another reason I would call your comment irrelevant. It would be relevant if muslims only mated with other muslims.

Edit: Clarified, my original post sounded too harsh.

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:02:00 UTC | #226433

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samratpathania,

Nader supporter ha? I don't see anything about Nader's stand on separation of church and state, and that makes me not too keen on him either. Am I wrong or does he seem to avoid that issue like it was the plague?

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:12:00 UTC | #225874

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Al,
Yes exactly and it will stay this way unless there is a revolution of some sorts but I really don't see that happening. I try to stay out of politics but when I read articles (especially on RD.net) about politics and then see my fellow American atheists naively following these liars and trusting them I just feel I have to say something. I realize me saying something really won't change much but I had to vent at least.

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:02:00 UTC | #225814

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rengdahl,

The difference that matters is undoing the "emperor" powers granted to the presidency by every president that has take office from either party. Which one of these candidates will do that? Which one of them will pull out of Iraq and hold the Bush administration accountable for all the lies? Which one of them will push through the laws to dismantle the corrupting powers of lobbyists? Which one of them will stand up for the separation of church and state and return the states to a secular democracy it was suppose to be? Which one of them will put the FED back in the hands of the American people? So yes they are just slight variations of the same old power base.

I think you're opinion is just more of the optimistic garbage where we are suppose to place all this trust in the two parties that are not willing to right each others wrongs do to fear of loosing power as a result of retaliation by the other since each is as corrupt as the other and has done as many things wrong. Wake up the system is broken and has been for years.

Next you will tell me that I'm throwing my vote away by not voting for Obama, please give it up it's an old approach and I'm not willing to follow it anymore.

Edited: forgot to mention who this is addressed to

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:51:00 UTC | #225778

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