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Go to: Islam doesn't like the gays much, does it?

lilalindy's Avatar Jump to comment 29 by lilalindy

Well, I've just got the Derby Telegraph delivered through the door and found that you have already started talking about it.

One interesting point is that during the trial, they stated that they were only mentioning historical evidence (someone being hanged for being homosexual hundreds of years ago); and, quotes from the Quran.

It struck me at the time that one way of interpreting what they were saying in their leaflets was that, 'in the context of modern, largely humanistic morals, where now, we all know that homosexuals being regarded negatively to some extent, simply for being homosexual, is nothing at all more than superstitious nonsense; capital punishment (such as that that occurred in the historical case mentioned in the leaflet) is wrong and thus, wholly unjustifiable; and, texts that promote such superstitions (such as the Quran that they quote from in the leaflet and other religious texts) are thus out-of-date and dangerous.'

I'm sure that they didn't mean to highlight that their 'holybook' is just superstitious bollocks, but it would be interesting to see their reactions when seeing a leaflet highlighting the facts that they have inadvertently raised when interpreted in that way.

They would probably have a demonstration where they could wave placards stating; 'behead those that insult Islam' without realising that my making such a statement, they were, themselves, insulting Islam. Ah. They have already done that - that was in Derby as well.

Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:43:30 UTC | #910467

Go to: Free Bibles being sent to all schools

lilalindy's Avatar Jump to comment 50 by lilalindy

When you receive your Bible, return it with a note stating that you were under the impression that it would be an educational bible and that a copy of every primary school teacher's bible; Sue Lloyd's Phonics Handbook (or some similarly useful tome) would have been arriving.

Oh, hang on, that's become flippant.


It would be inappropriate to inflict only one point-of-view's bible, so how about explaining that you were under the impression that you could choose one - how about the Shrimad Bhagavad Gita in the original Sanskrit, with the letters written in the Devanagari writing system. At least it is fascinating to look at and without any translation into a writing system or language that the children could understand, they would get out of it as much, if not more, than getting a copy of the Christian Bible (at least, with it being confined to the status of fascinating work of art, it would have no negative impact upon them).

Sun, 04 Dec 2011 12:58:11 UTC | #895550

Go to: Can we be sceptical about scepticism?

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Comment 57 by aldous

In arguments about climate change the area in which the 'sceptics' are notably unsceptical is about their own knowledge and abilities.

Dunning Kruger.

Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:06:04 UTC | #862986

Go to: Can we be sceptical about scepticism?

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Comment 16 by Pete H

BTW. Christianity is very much the origin of modern science. So there is something there for people of Christian heritage to take great pride in, as a historical cultural background.

I think that Christianity provided an opportunity for otherwise intelligent people to experiment, instead of having to devote their existence to finding enough food to survive - the supportive environment monastery for example (enough time, opportunity, access to intellectual resources and so on).

Comment 29 by AtheistEgbert

Reason -> Scepticism -> Free Thought -> Atheism -> Secularism -> New Atheism?

I think that 'New Atheism' is just a fancy label for a group of thought processes that goes back at least as far as Charvaka - pre-dating 150 BC.

One other interesting thing - I thought it came from Charvaka but I haven't been able to find a link (Wikipedia seems to be quite fluid or I'm getting old) is this...

Believe nothing just because   मा विश्वसिहि केवलं हि

  1. a so-called wise person said it   केनाऽपि पंडितेन तदुक्तमिति
  2. a belief is generally held   साधारणश्रद्धास्तीति
  3. it is said in ancient books   प्राचीनग्रंथेषूक्तमिति
  4. it is said to be of divine origin   तद्दिव्यमुक्तमिति
  5. someone else believes it   केनाऽपि तद्विश्वसितमिति

Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true   केवलं विश्वसिहि तद्यद् त्वया परीक्षितं सत्यमिति ज्ञातं च

How old that is and where it comes from, I don't know (I know where I got it from but how did it get there), but it sort of sums it up really. It'd look good on a teeshirt.

Sun, 21 Aug 2011 13:21:00 UTC | #862969

Go to: Protest the Pope Part 2: "The Return of the Secularists"

lilalindy's Avatar Jump to comment 7 by lilalindy

If you're drunk enough, I'm the one who looks like Brad Pitt.

What if Brad Pitt turns up?

Some people say that I look a bit like John Peel (John Robert Parker Ravenscroft, OBE). He's dead though, isn't he. I don't know how to take that.

Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:26:10 UTC | #862233

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