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Go to: Why We Don't Believe in Science

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I don't think that explanation is very good.

It is logical and inituitive to believe that the moon and the sun circles earth for the straightforward reason that that is what they appear to be doing if you observe them. They both rise in the east, then travel across the sky to set in the west.

There's no similar inituitive reason to believe that "God created humans in our present form sometime in the last 10000 years".

Let's take it apart, starting with the timeframe. What is "inituitive" about "the last 10000" as opposed to "the last 1000" or "the last million" ? I would argue nothing whatsoever, thus the -only- reason to believe in precisely this timeframe, is religious indoctrination.

If anything, I'd say intuition tells you that the parent of a human has always been a human, thus we've been more or less like we are forever. That's even correct, with the caveat that the parent is only generally nearly the same as the child, thus over enough generations significant differences accumulate. But that's a detail in comparison.

Furthermore, belief in creationism varies wildly by country. Why do 80 - 90% of scandinavians agree that "Human beings evolved from earlier animals by natural selection" while only 15% of Americans believe this, if the reason is "intuition".

Are americans having genetically different "intuition" or is the much simpler explanation that they believe differently because they have been taught differently ? I would say it's pretty obvious that the latter is the case.

Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:00:33 UTC | #946311

Go to: Is Pleasure a Sin?

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Not only is Pain and suffering good, and useful as atonement. Indeed the entire religion is based on this central premise:

The premise that whatever we do, we're un-worthy, sinful and deserving of eternity in hell. Only trough the ultimate sacrifice, the torture and killing of Jesus, can we be forgiven. The more you think about it, the less sense it makes. God doesn't love us despite having killed his son. He loves us because we killed his son.

If an actual person behaved like God does, we'd send him to the nice house with the padded walls.

Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:52:39 UTC | #946101

Go to: One in seven thinks end of world is coming

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No they don't. These are classical believers of the common variety. They claim to believe a multitude of nonsense, but mostly because they feel it's expected of them - they don't actually do any of the things that it'd make sense to do if they where honest about their beliefs.

If you actually believed that the Bible is the word of an all-powerful God, you'd bother actually reading it, all of it, more than once. Nearly nobody who -claims- to believe actually bothers.

If you actually believed the world is likely to end in 2012, you'd make a large number of big changes in your life - I doubt many people with sufficient savings to last for the year would bother showing up at work, for example.

Ask a believer sometimes, what things they do that they'd stop doing without belief. Or what things they refrain from that they'd like to do, but that belief prevents them from doing. Most come up with lists damn near empty.

In essence, I claim belief, but my belief stops where the nessecity of changing the way I actually want to live begins.

Fri, 04 May 2012 07:17:39 UTC | #939573

Go to: Call for Scientific App Ideas

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Extending this: http://www.khanacademy.org/exercisedashboard to cover science, would be awesome. At the very least it should be doable for the harder sciences. It's not hard to imagine a similar tool for learning physics, or chemistry, or astronomy. Perhaps trickier for biology.

Wed, 03 Aug 2011 06:34:36 UTC | #857328

Go to: Resist this medical obscurantism

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You forgot about Zuma of South-Africa who, when asked by a court why he choose not to use a condom while having sex with a woman he -knew- was a HIV-carrier, managed to utter that he was not worried, as he had taken a shower after the act. (sadly, he failed to get infected!)

Tue, 03 May 2011 10:20:57 UTC | #622418

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